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You may be right re. Newman but the coach isn't making him drop the ball or try to beat the entire opposition on his own every time he gets the ball. Newman needs to learn how to play with his team mates better - maybe that's a coaching issue too but I think he's always been a bit of a glory boy. He just needs reining in a bit at times - he would look better running into space with some structure agreed.

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I am torn on Cam Smith. I think there is a good player in there who is just out of form. At this time I would just put him into the bench rotation and bring Corey on after 30 mins and move JOC to 13 for a spell. My bigger problem is that I’ve seen nothing on the field that makes me think he is a captain.

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Is there any natural captain in the squad? Croft doesn't seem to have much of a voice on the field. You can see why being chief playmaker didn't work for him at the Broncos. Frawley would seem to check the right boxes for captain except there's not much evidence he can actually play to any standard.

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Quote: christopher "I think people are being a bit harsh on Cam, he's an excellent ball playing 13 playing in a poor side'"


I think he could be a good one but often he is a ball playing loose forward who doesn’t actually pass the ball, which makes him a second rate prop at the moment.

I thought he really came
On last year but he is one of many who needs some strong coaching.
On Saturday I recall Hull props getting at least 3 offloads away when him and Holroyd were jointly involved in the tackle.
As for TH I thought he would really make it when he was young but he was miles off on Saturday and I think he is in the last chance saloon with a new coach

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Quote: Once were Loiners "Is there any natural captain in the squad? Croft doesn't seem to have much of a voice on the field. You can see why being chief playmaker didn't work for him at the Broncos. Frawley would seem to check the right boxes for captain except there's not much evidence he can actually play to any standard.'"


This is a pretty significant issue within the club as a whole, in my view. RS was a 'hands off' coach in terms of managing what was actually happening on the pitch. That would be less of an issue if you had the likes of JP, Sinfield and Mags on the pitch taking charge of things themselves.

Passive coaching and passive players with no one standing up and marshalling them has made us look and play like wet cardboard cut outs.

I don't really think there is anyone obvious in the squad who could be captain (they are a bad bunch), but Rhys Martin (of them) is one - he plays most weeks, has responsibility for kicking and has played different roles, so has some sense of what is needed. He is also captain for PNG as well (if I remember right) and has played in big games so has that too.

Otherwise, it is a struggle to pick anyone else. They all have massive flaws!

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We almost need to sign a new captain. One thing Sinny was awesome at was his on-field leadership (a few crazy decisions aside).

I think Holroyd is a good player still, but he hasn't kicked on from the juniors really. All the props, including him and Mik, would look better if we had one or two more genuinely high quality big men in that pack to distribute the load and step up standards.

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