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Quote: Les Norton "Re Newman, tough decisions need to be made. His behaviour is a disgrace. In this sport, the ‘team’ is everything. Weird guy.

Cam Smith needs to return to basics. He’s not a half back. There’s a good player in there. He found it too easy at academy level.

Croft was excellent. Real work ethic. Johnson is an out and out hooker, it’ll be a shame to lose him.'"


Agree on Newman, believes his own hype.. We must have 2 of the worst centres in the league.. Neither have done anything this season.

Also agree on the other players mentioned. I presume Roberts was dropped for Alfie?

Can't take anything from this game with regards to "how good are we really" as Cas were garbage.... Still lack any real punch in the middle. Still don't rate Frawley.. it's easy to look like world beaters against poor opposition... but it's a win, 2 points and hopefully a bit of positivity for the team.

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Hard to tell if he's a flat track bully or if its because he's easy to target as he's the only forward we have who hits the line hard. That makes him pretty easy to defend against if you are organised and determined, and he's not a Walmsley who is big enough to flatten anybody regardless. If he was following up someone else who did the same the tackle before he'd be a lot more effective.

I ca't imagine any opposition pack being particularly worried about facing ours. We're the least physical outside the bottom three by some distance. That's why I think we need two power forwards to give us more of a chance. One isn't enough, you need a rotation that always has some bite on the field. Not to mention injuries.

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The more I see Sangare the more it highlights the recruitment and retention disasters made by the club in recent years. Not only do we sign the least effective pound for pound prop forward in the world, we then compound the mistake by offering him a contract extension based on an injury riddled season and toothless displays. If you want to find out where it’s been going wrong for the Rhinos over the last few years Sangare is the best example.

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Quote: leeds owl "The more I see Sangare the more it highlights the recruitment and retention disasters made by the club in recent years. Not only do we sign the least effective pound for pound prop forward in the world, we then compound the mistake by offering him a contract extension based on an injury riddled season and toothless displays. If you want to find out where it’s been going wrong for the Rhinos over the last few years Sangare is the best example.'"


I dont have an issue with Sangare in a rotation or "project" berth, but I do agree he isnt really pulling up any trees as stands or even stood.
For a bloke that size it is a little disappointing that he isnt tearing through the line and continually makes daft offloads. Did we recruit the best we could? or the best we could afford?

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Too many projects.

Olpherts,Roberts, Hooley, Hudson, Sangare, McDonnell ( to a lesser degree).

Sangare isn't bad as the 5th or 6th prop in a season long rotation.
Same for Hudson and Goudemand.

The problem is we only three first grade props.
Holroyd seems to have injury lay offs, Oledski is a workhorse, lisone can bend the line on a good day.

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Quote: fanstanningley "I'll take the win but for mine that's the worst Cas team I've seen in nearly 50 years.'"

I was going to say something similar but the news of Rob put things in perspective. I said to a mate at the start of the season it was the worst Cas team I can remember but had got a bit of enthusiasm after some signings & recent performances. I expected Cas to give you a run for your money but it felt completely flat; it didn't seem to matter which is inexcusable against your biggest rivals.

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