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| Smith has had long enough and performances continue to be substandard and inexplicably inept. Gary H has banked some of his own reputation on appointing Smith so won’t react quickly. I think Rohan’s roster management has been better than some aspects of his performance, though I agree there is more hope than evidence, in converting journeymen into stars.
I don’t think they have been doing due diligence in incoming players. Miller is a good example - superficially in some clips may seem exciting but is just too giddy.
No leadership on the pitch. I am not a fan of players giving a consolatory touch to a team mate having made a mistake.
Best start again and appoint a decent Director of Rugby who will in the short term put pressure on Rohan, and in meantime organise a search for a new coach.
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| Quote ploinerrhino="ploinerrhino"So keep him on and let him cause more damage
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Think the damage is already done. We aren’t going win anything nor will we be relegated. So we have ample time to appoint a successor , if a decent coach comes along go for him. Not certain a temporary coach would make a substantial difference, certainly won’t be converting Roberts into a world class three quarter. Nor Frawley into a decent half back. You appear to be the font of all knowledge so it may pay for the club to appoint you as temporary coach.
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| I doubt GH will take any action if at all until the end of the season. It will reflect badly on him yet again with his poor choices of the coach in this and previous seasons. Also if we finish in the top 6 then Smith will probably be here next season.
The only way he possibly would take action is if we lose to one of the bottom 3 over the next month, as even he would realise the unrest, even amongst the most loyal supporters, would be too much to ignore and bear..
Beat the bottom 3 easily and either a narrow win or loss to Leigh and I don't believe he will do anything.
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| On another note you don`t think there might be some discontent amongst the players with the likes of Newman and most likely Croft possibly Ackers getting the big bucks which has divided the dressing room?
When I see players like Cam Smith who I thought had a decent last season play like he couldn`t care less and others who appear to have gone backwards in their development this season.
Could there be an undercurrent that all is not well?
Or maybe the players do not buy into Smith`s coaching methods which seems most likely?
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| Quote chapylad="chapylad"
Or maybe the players do not buy into Smith`s coaching methods which seems most likely?'"
If that is the case should not Smith, as captain, speak to Rohan about their concerns.
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| It's all speculation and we just don't know. Losing games and having your own crowd turn on you does apply tremendous pressure though and that's when cracks appear. Just as when you're winning you gloss over the problems a bit.
I don't think lots of players have gone backwards this year TBH. Handley and Oledski have been consistently decent all year, Cam Smith has played as well as he has in his whole career under Rohan Smith. I feel more like the players are stitching up the coach by poor form and performances more than anything else. Ultimately he will pay a price but in my view this squad still simply isn't good enough to compete at the top.
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| Retaining fusi and Donaldson has proven to be a poor choice when what we needed was a reliable winger and a back rower with some oomph.
Signing Goudemand when what we needed was a power house prop similar.
Olpherts,Hooley, Roberts are shaping up to be silly or poor signings.
Croft,Ackers, McDonnell have been generally good despite how poor we are playing.
Jury out on Miller and Frawley but they have weaknesses that are exposed every game.
My thoughts before the season started were that we were much stronger and that RS would stay in post unless we were threatened with relegation.
What I wanted to see was better performances with more structure,less errors and less of the passive/ bonkers stuff.
What I have seen is a team & coach that can't fix basic skill issues, play to no structure, make the same mistakes and display the same attitude.
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| I had some sympathy with Frawley with the intercept. He gets that ball to Handley it’s a try. One of those 12 point moments.
I still don’t know who is responsible for recruitment - probably a team effort. What is clear is that Leeds for years have gone cheap, and when they have gone for names they’ve often gone wrong.
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| Quote Backwoodsman="Backwoodsman"Think the damage is already done. We aren’t going win anything nor will we be relegated. So we have ample time to appoint a successor , if a decent coach comes along go for him. Not certain a temporary coach would make a substantial difference, certainly won’t be converting Roberts into a world class three quarter. Nor Frawley into a decent half back. You appear to be the font of all knowledge so it may pay for the club to appoint you as temporary coach.'"
Not asking for a temporary coach , there are good options available now and money talks , Rowley and Salford would not be able to turn Leeds down .
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| Quote Emagdnim13="Emagdnim13"Retaining fusi and Donaldson has proven to be a poor choice when what we needed was a reliable winger and a back rower with some oomph.
Signing Goudemand when what we needed was a power house prop similar.
Olpherts,Hooley, Roberts are shaping up to be silly or poor signings.
Croft,Ackers, McDonnell have been generally good despite how poor we are playing.
Jury out on Miller and Frawley but they have weaknesses that are exposed every game.
My thoughts before the season started were that we were much stronger and that RS would stay in post unless we were threatened with relegation.
What I wanted to see was better performances with more structure,less errors and less of the passive/ bonkers stuff.
What I have seen is a team & coach that can't fix basic skill issues, play to no structure, make the same mistakes and display the same attitude.'"
To be fair if i was on the jury it would not have taken long , one is a Seven a side player , the other is a Super League and N.R.L failure before coming to Leeds
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| I'd like to see us look better organised too, but if players keep on dropping the ball or missing 1:1 tackles your structure is worth nothing frankly. You can't apply structure if you're inviting to opposition to attack you all game.
Be an interesting next few fixtures. If Cas beat us at home I can only imagine the crowd...
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