Thought Sky's highlight of Newman lying on the floor then slowly walking back whilst Saints were celebrating scoring a try highlighted the attitude that seems to be creeping into some Leeds players.

The low point for me was seeing Leeds players laughing and joking with opponents that had hammered them right after the final whistle. Luis Roberts was having a good old laugh and chinwag for a couple of minutes with one particular player, a terrible look for the club and confirmation that a lot of these lads are simply here for a pay cheque. There seems to be no real passion for the club within the majority of this current bunch, and I’ve never seen a more fractured group of players in my life. People talk about “the rebuild” well guess what, this current rebuild needs to be razed to the foundations and started again with a whole new group of players. I won’t be giving another penny to Hetherington till these contracts run down and he gets some players that are invested in the club and the shirt. McDonnell gets a pass, he was the only one that looked like he was hurting last night and prepared to do something about it.

Carrying a head that big is burden - can't be expected to do the hard work. Perhaps his dad will come out and blast Wilkin for highlighting this. Can't show Harry's weaknesses he is a delicate flower.

In the first half claiming a try when he clearly knew it was over the line - trying to cheat the ref!!

Not watched the game but don’t need to as seen it all before.

Since march 18 when Brian McD took a side to win at Saints, we have played 18 matches v Saints, won 1 ( last year Blake Austin. Drop goal) and lost 17. No wins at home.

This is long term systemic failure by Hetherington.

We are struggling badly but we have not been able to compete with the best side for a very long time.

The good news is that Saints won’t beat us again until February 2025 at the earliest.

What do you mean, we’ll meet them in the playoffs and GF

This is something that I can’t understand, as a player I’d be fuming after any loss and wouldn’t care if my mates are on the other team, I wouldn’t be up for a laugh and a joke. I’d be shaking hands then straight down the tunnel.

I think that's a bit harsh on Roberts. I'd say it reflects more on the senior players. They set the tone and the younger guys follow it. Can you imagine JP after that sort of loss? None of the junior players would pal around after a shellacking if he was in the team. We don't have anything like that sort of leadership in the squad, and haven't for years.

Commented that someone would say this when I was watching last night. The simple fact is you can care a lot, be upset but still have a conversation with one of your friends. I can think of hundreds of times where I've been upset and had a laugh with people. The players are human, stop projecting your thoughts onto them and totally misreading the situation.

Agreed, there will have been plenty times when mcguire, peacock sinfield et al will have had a beating but then been jovial with the opposition, RL is a small community a lot of the players will be friends off the pitch.

Well that was a disgraceful performance and only Handley looked to be putting any effort in.
I would say the same about McDonnell even though he gave penalties away he made a hell of a lot of tackles.
Croft and Ackers look distinctly average in our team and as for Newman I`m still waiting for him to do something and to stop acting like a spoilt brat.
And I was pleased Sky highlighted him still laying down on the turf whilst Saints scored from the gap he left.
A decent coach would drop him for the next game.
Russell and Handley the only backs with any credit from the game.
Sangare, Goudemand, Lisone and Smith wouldn`t look out of place in the London team.
No aggression, no structure, no guts and no game plan, no confidence in their own ability or the coaches ability sums us up.
I reckon if fans voted with their feet like I will do at Headingley in future then Gary who is 5 years past his sell by date might realise where we are heading.
And before anyone says we have Holroyd, Gannon and Bentley missing.
Take a look at how many much better forwards Saints had missing as well as losing their half back and a forward during the game.
Pathetic is an understatement.

Jim saints were all over us and every key indicator was well in their favour 6 12 wasn't an accurate reflection of the balance of the game and it was inevitable.