All the above is up for debate but looking at facts

R Smith and Gawwy claim they now have great signings and clarity of a way forward
R Smith has had over 2 Years to make his mark and design the play.

Sam Burgess has inherited a Daryl Powell Keystone cops outfit (What Powell does best is ruin teams) SB has added a few good players and in 3 months has pulled Wire together

RESULT Total humiliation of Leeds team that looked like a bunch of 18 guys who just met that day for a local pub team runaround

TELL ME What has Rohan Smith achieved other than modelling most of the OXEN merchandise on Sky tv claiming “We played well but got totally blown off the park?”

we are no further forward in terms of an identity or playing style than when smith came.
you can blame refs, 50/50 calls whatever, but the fact is we have played on the back foot since he came.
it occasionally works but long term it certainly work and smiths blinkered approach and refusal to change means its another doomed season

Inherited a key stone cops outfit? He Inherited one of the best squads in the league

They all have better squads than us and even if some of the coaches are not great they are still better than ours

OKAY:

1) cleared out a load of dead wood, sometimes quite brutally
2) brought the whole club together more from all the different sides
3) brought in some good quality players (not enough)
4) dealt with a lot of bad luck and adversity (injuries and unrest) mostly out of his control

SB has done a good job with Wire for sure so far. I’d like a Leeds side that plays that way because he loves his defence.

The injury to Handley was always coming under Rohan Smith. His workload carrying the ball out of defence has been ridiculous, he’s been making carries the forwards should have been doing for far too long. The props seem to be able to hide for long periods under Rohan Smith and will continue to do so.

Didn’t get to see the game and not bothered to watch it back after seeing the result.

Very disappointing result, didn’t expect us and Wire to be too far apart this season.

Saw a stat today that said Handley having only played 28mins was our top metre maker… I mean wtf..a big game at home.. deary me.

Stats don't tell the whole story though do they - Handley had one almost length of the field break which will massively skew his numbers.

I don't think the stats to justice to the work of Holroyd and McDonnell sometimes either. They indicate but they're not the gospel without game context being applied too. Over a whole season they make more sense.

What evidence do you have that Smith has brought the club together?
What real quality players has he brought in?
The injuries at Leeds are no different to any other side - no better no worse - what bad luck/unrest has he dealt with?

Smith's job is to improve those players he coaches and provide a coherent game plan that delivers results on the field. Can you hand on heart say he has done this?

1) there were loads of videos and content pre-season with the women's, juniors, PDRL etc sides all coming together. Maybe it was PR but the participants seemed to enjoy it and be bought in to me.
2) Croft, Ackers are proven quality. Miller is a gamble but an upgrade on what we had before. McDonnell is quality. I did say a few!
3) Look at the state of the side with injuries last year and the players who went AWOL/mutinied (our main playmaker, main strike outside back and our ex captain and dummy half??). You don't think that constitutes bad luck and unrest? The wheels fell off the club after the Summer.

Of course Smiths job is to improve the players, and to put together a side which can compete. I've said elsewhere I don't think he's got all the decisions right - but controversially I'd say Donaldson, Goudemand and Bentley were incorrect signings for me. Jury is out on Frawley and Momirovski: I think Miller will come good but he does need some coaching to reduce the brain trumps he can be prone to.

I'm saying it's still too early to make the call on Smith. Lots of you on here have had the knives out for him since Summer last year and are looking for all excuses to stick the boot in frankly, which is fine that's your right. I'd go as far as to say that if Frawley and Momirovski don't work out, it will cost Smith his job. I also have no idea what kind of backing/cheque book GH has given him. For example, losing Walters and losing out on Eseh and Okoro - or some of the better NRL players that have gone to Wire, Cats, Wigan or Saints rather than us... is that a Smith issue or are we just not prepared to pay as a club? I don't know.