Thought you got points deducted for that, and handed out the year after.

everyone one of us can talk a good game seth...

I’ll be there, if you see a codger rocking back and forward doing a Gregorian chant, please stop by and join in.

Interesting bunch you lot

Can you get done for not spending a minimum of a million like a minimum speed limit?

If you see a semi codger trying to console a wailing 6 year old boy because we’re playing crap, feel free to buy me a hot chocolate

I’m not going, can’t make it. Let’s hope we finish with some pride. Desperately needed but I can see Cas sneaking it

The NRL talked about a minimum cap spend a while ago. When David Middleton was with the NRL he visited England and said some teams were spending only 30-40% of the cap while others were maxed out. Leeds were one of the clubs who voted against increasing the cap for a long time, and its one of the reasons why even with marquee allowances SL clubs just cannot compete with the NRL. We have to use marquee for average NRL players now, and most clubs are picking up fringe players. I know the NRL cap has exploded, but SL didn't even keep pace with inflation for years.

It’s an interesting point. The idea of a cap works in theory to even out a system, but it assumes a closed system. In reality we are in competition with our core assets - players - with RU and NRL.

Whether many clubs could afford to increase the cap much I don’t know - aren’t all clubs pretty much posting losses as it is?

Most likely. If we increased the cap we'd see a big few open a more consistent gap on the rest, but just looking at most seasons it seems like some clubs just don't spend as much, and 'mid size' clubs tend to get lucky with players or they are unlucky (lucky and unlucky could equally mean badly managed) and don't tend to stay at the top for long. What Leeds are showing is that with the cap acting as a very hard limit, its really difficult to swap out a lot of players in one go. It will have taken us two off-seasons, and even then the squad for next season probably isn't exactly what Smith (or any other coach) would want.

I'm no expert on the cap but if you have homegrown exemptions, marquee etc doesn't that raise the cap significantly?