Zoo Zoo, I hope you're not an accountant! The spine had 25% of its first choice lineup. Only one player, O'Connor out of four would be first choice. In any event the "%" is less important than the experience/ability of those we had. That was Hooley's 7th SL game. Sinfield's 10th and he clearly isn't ready for SL. Martin isn't even a halfback.

Even that doesn't really tell the story. Put any one of them in Sts team for one of Welsby/Dodd/Lomax and they'd probably look above average. Put all three in Sts team and I'm pretty sure Sts would look bang average on attack, regardless of what "structure" Sts are coached to, because as a unit they aren't even Championship standard if we're honest. They did OK against a Hull team that is probably as keen for the season to be over as we are, but Wigan and Cats are gearing up for the play offs. I suspect we'll get beaten quite easily by Cas as well, as even if our forwards put in a shift (which they clearly did not against Cats) we just don't have many points in us if they defend with determination.

The only way we can compete with the spine we have is by being as physical as possible and trying to keep errors low. There won't be much in the way of flowing moves because we don't have the players to do it. Sadly the forwards haven't been willing to get stuck in as a unit, and our threequarters tend to make bad decisions as well.

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Take the point but Cameron Smith has his hands on the ball more than our halves or FB this year so he is a spine player at Leeds.

He should watch that LF, Yeo at Penrith he is often second receiver, gets deep into the line before passing.class act.

Next year for me Cam Smiyh needs to speed up his passing and need 2 halves that at times tell him to get out of the way.

Agree, I think it's come to the point where he has become a spine player because of the complete dearth, especially of late, of natural organisers. Next year that should be sorted and I'd like to see him try to play through the line more. He's not without size and if he can develop a round the back offload he can set himself apart from many of his peers in the English game.

You are probably right. I really like the way he plays - not the same as Danny Mags but offers a real running threat and skilful too.