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| Quote Jack Burton="Jack Burton"Karl Lawton (hooker), Ben Condon (prop), Kaeo Weekes (full back), Zac Fulton (back row) and Kelma Tuilsgi (back row) have been given permission to leave by Manly IF they find offers elsewhere'"
I'd take weekes in a heartbeat but we have miller now. Tuilagi would also be a very good signing for SL level.
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| Quote Once were Loiners="Once were Loiners"I don't think its unreasonable for a woman to want to have a baby surrounded by family. In any event I'm saying that if its that sort of issue that means he won't come back, its hugely different from Segayaro bailing on us. Who knows, maybe Nene was fully intent on returning this week, but just felt he couldn't. He seems like a pretty genuine person, and while its not great for us Leeds fans if he doesn't return, I hope we can just move on and wish him the best.'"
He may or may not be, I don't know him at all. But he's just signed a 4 year extension. Circumstances change and stuff happens, I get that, but we can't just let him walk away with no recompense. If the club wanted him out I'm certain he'd be pointing to his contract, and quite rightly, too.
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| If McDonald has gone, we really need to make a push for Iro, without being a classic 'wingers centre' he's a bit more natural than McDonald in the role, and if we want someone to replace McDonald's meters, then theres no one better than Iro that could be classed as a realistic signing.
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| Frawley just had another completely anonymous game for the Raiders against the Sharks. Nothing at all worth noting with the ball. He makes Sezer look like Andrew Johns.
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| Quote Once were Loiners="Once were Loiners"Frawley just had another completely anonymous game for the Raiders against the Sharks. Nothing at all worth noting with the ball. He makes Sezer look like Andrew Johns.'"
Caught the last 30 mins. Just to add an element of balance - it's hard for him to influence the game when the hooker (Woolford) continually passes the ball right. It was a shame for Canberra because he ignored a couple of very good opportunities down the left flank. Frawley is clearly no world beater, but he just wouldn't get picked if he was the no hoper you are making him out to be.
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| Quote YosemiteSam="YosemiteSam"He may or may not be, I don't know him at all. But he's just signed a 4 year extension. Circumstances change and stuff happens, I get that, but we can't just let him walk away with no recompense. If the club wanted him out I'm certain he'd be pointing to his contract, and quite rightly, too.'"
Exactly.
Regardless of the circumstances, he's just signed a 4 year contract.
He can't just walk out on it and then go and play for someone else.
Just like the club can't just go and cancel a contract.
It works both ways.
Things like this set a dangerous precedent.
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| Who exactly are you going to get compensation from? No court in Australia would enforce an employment agreement that would effectively force an Australian citizen to live in another country or pay a fine. How would Leeds look trying to enforce compensation when the publicity would be spun as a club trying to make a new father leave his family if they don't want to leave? Do you really think the NRL (or more importantly the Players' Association, which is very powerful in Oz) would back Leeds in that circumstance?
Reality is, if push comes to shove and he says he wants to stay in Australia, we're done. You can stamp your feet and say its not fair, but again, this is not Segeyaro (or Craig Innes years ago). Macdonald can point to family circumstances that would make Leeds like the ultimate bad bosses if they tried to do much.
Fair it may not be. But that is one fight the club would have to walk away from if we want to employ Aussies/Kiwis in the future.
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| they would hold his registration. his playing career would be over
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| Quote Once were Loiners="Once were Loiners"Who exactly are you going to get compensation from? No court in Australia would enforce an employment agreement that would effectively force an Australian citizen to live in another country or pay a fine. How would Leeds look trying to enforce compensation when the publicity would be spun as a club trying to make a new father leave his family if they don't want to leave? Do you really think the NRL (or more importantly the Players' Association, which is very powerful in Oz) would back Leeds in that circumstance?
Reality is, if push comes to shove and he says he wants to stay in Australia, we're done. You can stamp your feet and say its not fair, but again, this is not Segeyaro (or Craig Innes years ago). Macdonald can point to family circumstances that would make Leeds like the ultimate bad bosses if they tried to do much.
Fair it may not be. But that is one fight the club would have to walk away from if we want to employ Aussies/Kiwis in the future.'"
Yep, if he's going he's going. More importantly if we try to hold on as a matter of principle we won't be able to recruit a replacement, which is all that matters going forward.
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| If he's going then we need to accept it however if we agree to a release there should be a clause that requires a fee is due if he then signs with another superleague team in the period he would have been contracted at Leeds. That supports his family situation but gives some respect to his contract with Leeds.
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"they would hold his registration. his playing career would be over'"
So would any ability we might have to recruit any quality players from Australia.
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