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For me, it books down to two things. We took our eye off the ball with the junior setup. We have produced some ok players in that period, but no real established internationals in that period. Looking at the England vs team, we don't really have anyone regularly in there.
Secondly, our transition from the golden generation was woeful, and we've been on the backfoot ever since, and our signings have been generally poor.

Without the solid base of great youngsters coming through, more emphasis has been on signings, and we havent been able to get played of the right calibre to come and stay to help build a team around

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Quote: christopher "This schtick of yours is getting tiresome now, thank god it’s the off season soon.'"

Have you met my wife?

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Quote: ArthurClues "Nope, loose forward isn't a spine position any more. The modern role of the fullback has replaced it. Still useful to have a 13 who can play a bit though.'"


Take the point but Cameron Smith has his hands on the ball more than our halves or FB this year so he is a spine player at Leeds.

He should watch that LF, Yeo at Penrith he is often second receiver, gets deep into the line before passing.class act.

Next year for me Cam Smiyh needs to speed up his passing and need 2 halves that at times tell him to get out of the way.

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Quote: KaeruJim "I think I’d go

I’m a McCormack fan but you can’t play him at SL level and I don’t think Rohan Smith will. He is nowhere near ready.

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Quote: Sir Gregory ParsloeP "Take the point but Cameron Smith has his hands on the ball more than our halves or FB this year so he is a spine player at Leeds.

He should watch that LF, Yeo at Penrith he is often second receiver, gets deep into the line before passing.class act.

Next year for me Cam Smiyh needs to speed up his passing and need 2 halves that at times tell him to get out of the way.'"

Agree, I think it's come to the point where he has become a spine player because of the complete dearth, especially of late, of natural organisers. Next year that should be sorted and I'd like to see him try to play through the line more. He's not without size and if he can develop a round the back offload he can set himself apart from many of his peers in the English game.

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Quote: Sir Gregory ParsloeP "I’m a McCormack fan but you can’t play him at SL level and I don’t think Rohan Smith will. He is nowhere near ready.'"

You are probably right. I really like the way he plays - not the same as Danny Mags but offers a real running threat and skilful too.

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