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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "I think Chris makes some good points but look at Saints they also built a new stadium and have continued to produce competitive teams. They also had the break up of a golden generation/team when the likes of Sculthorpe, Long, Martin, Cunningham but still kept winning.

Lots of horsepower seems to go into the Foundation and is this a distraction from the playing side.

The club always spends to or very near to the cap so not having the money is not an argument. What is a worry is how the money is being spent. We all agree the squad is poor despite spending the cap. Who is making these decisions? The club seems so slow to react - compare Wigan's recruitment for next season to Leeds? How long did it take Saints to get a replacement for Lussik?

I have said it before it needs a director of rugby who controls all the rugby side, the structures, recruitment, academy, direction of travel. This is a key appointment the most important role in the playing side of the club. It needs to be a fresh face with fresh ideas and needs to be given a remit that can attract a quality candidate and left to get on with it.

The club needs a streamlining in the coaching/conditioning area especially in the academy. Fresh faces and fresh ideas.

IOff the field this is the best run rugby club in the UK - GH/Rob Oates do a great job especially given the dross that has been ditched up over the past few years.'"


I get the point about Saints stadium but it wasn't as big of an outlay and they didn't go into a lock soon because of a pandemic as soon as it opened. Their succession planning has been better than ours although it will be interesting in the next few years because they have a few very influential players retiring in the next couple of years.

Just on the conditioning part we have changed that last year I believe and to be fair, lack of fitness doesn't seem to be an issue with the squad.

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Quote: christopher "This schtick of yours is getting tiresome now, thank god it’s the off season soon.'"

Have you met my wife?

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Quote: ArthurClues "Nope, loose forward isn't a spine position any more. The modern role of the fullback has replaced it. Still useful to have a 13 who can play a bit though.'"


Take the point but Cameron Smith has his hands on the ball more than our halves or FB this year so he is a spine player at Leeds.

He should watch that LF, Yeo at Penrith he is often second receiver, gets deep into the line before passing.class act.

Next year for me Cam Smiyh needs to speed up his passing and need 2 halves that at times tell him to get out of the way.

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Quote: KaeruJim "I think I’d go

I’m a McCormack fan but you can’t play him at SL level and I don’t think Rohan Smith will. He is nowhere near ready.

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Quote: Sir Gregory ParsloeP "Take the point but Cameron Smith has his hands on the ball more than our halves or FB this year so he is a spine player at Leeds.

He should watch that LF, Yeo at Penrith he is often second receiver, gets deep into the line before passing.class act.

Next year for me Cam Smiyh needs to speed up his passing and need 2 halves that at times tell him to get out of the way.'"

Agree, I think it's come to the point where he has become a spine player because of the complete dearth, especially of late, of natural organisers. Next year that should be sorted and I'd like to see him try to play through the line more. He's not without size and if he can develop a round the back offload he can set himself apart from many of his peers in the English game.

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Quote: Sir Gregory ParsloeP "I’m a McCormack fan but you can’t play him at SL level and I don’t think Rohan Smith will. He is nowhere near ready.'"

You are probably right. I really like the way he plays - not the same as Danny Mags but offers a real running threat and skilful too.

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