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Quote: krisleeds "Until Smith gets a free shot with the OQ and frankly ridiculous money we spent on both Tetevano and Sezer's wages on the assumption they are both Marquee players - he won't have had a chance. He got us to the GF last year - his talents are clearly there.

It is very difficult to make a poor side play well when you inherit another coaches ideas and infrastructure.

The flip side is that Saints have a decent squad and its very easy to roll on success when the bones of the squad are there 1, 6, 7 and 9.

Leeds got it badly wrong with Dwyer (we havent had a proper hooker since Buderus), Sezer (made of glass), Tetvano and Fusitu'a (see Sezer).

It boils down to poor recruitment.

eg we need a centre, We have Newman but he's been really unlucky. Thats it, thats the only proper centre we have.

Wigan managed to pick up Wardle AND King late last season. Why weren't Leeds all over that?

We have half backs and wingers at full back. Back rowers in the centres. Back rowers at stand off. Loose forwards at hooker.

We all know Smith is patching holes - but the club need to look at how those holes have been created.

I was speaking to my Wakey mate this morning. They are now on 2 point chasing Cas. Cas have 6 points - 4 are from playing Leeds.


2024 needs to be a blanks slate.

If Leeds has signed Luke Brooks, NOW is a good time to get that announced.'"


You can't just blame recruitment for the recent performances, Smith is simply not getting a tune out of the squad this season which is bizarre considering how it went for him last season. He's lost control somewhere and i think there is an unhappy camp. We should be good enough to be close the playoffs if not in the top 6 but we look like relegation candidates. It's a good job we have points on the board.

However, you do have a very well made point about recruitment and that is doing longer term damage imo. Covid losses compounded years of poor recruitment too imo but that needs to change for next season, we have a massive few months ahead and need to get it right if we are ever to reach the standards of where we should be.

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Yeah he's done a good job there imo has Holbrook. Leeds should most definitely be sounding him out just on the basis that it potentially doesn't work for Rohan. You can't let a quality coach sail by like that.

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Simple solution Gary - get rid of our " out of his depth " trainee coach , and bring in the Master - Uncle Tony.

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You really meant that comment Boots!

Looks like Holbrook could be back at Saints soon....

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which goes to show the coach is the most important appointment in the club. Tony Smith has turned around a hull side that was worse than ours.
Wellans is struggling at saints as he hasn't the quality of his predecessor.
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Posted this in another thread but on second thought it feels more appropriate here.

Kind of feels like Leeds is turning into a big corparate money machine. Can't remember the last time Garry got us a star player or big coach that impressed people. My opinion on the reason why is that all he cares about is money and not about the rugby team on the pitch, every single week it feels like we release a new merch line that people buy, we average the highest home attendance in super league consistently, really sponsor friendly atm with ooohhh look at us we have a womens team, disabled team, netball team ect. what an inclusive and family friendly club. We clearly have a good cash inflow, GH is filling his pockets quite nicely as he runs the club well off the pitch and is able to make money regardless of poop performances. If he has lost passion or enjoyment for the game ( not a stretch at all for someone 68/69 who has been involved in rugby for so long ) then why should he invest in the team if supporters still buy tickets, merch and food/drink. We arent bad enough to get relegated either.

This idea is of course all speculation from myself but to be honest it has become a genuine concern for me recently with how the club is being run. Ownership genuinely seems not to care that we are average and I fear us turning into another Hull FC, fairly big club that sits in mid table and does nothing.

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