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Quote: Trebor1 "Phenomenal performance from the lads in that second half. Shows how better we are when playing with intensity and line speed. Austin put a huge shift in. Newman just looks special. Gannon was great when he came on too. Cameron Smith just gets better'"


Must say always had my doubts about Cameron Smith, but hats off he looks fitter than ever and really starting to look like a very good player, not drifting in and out of games like before (well no more than the rest if the team’s current firm) hope the trajectory keeps going up he could be the best 13 in super league in another year or so.

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Quote: tad rhino "wigan should have been 40 up. isn't that obvious? as for the stupid passes yes but guess what? start playing with aggression and doing the hard stuff, dominating in defence, then you get rewards too.
snap shots? it was hardly 5 minutes. 40 minutes of garbage and 40 minutes traditional RL.
uncle Tony tried to be revolutionary in 2006. how did that end up? he reverted to proper RL in 2007.
guess you see what you want to see'"

No it isn't obvious. Leeds didn't respect the ball and made some bad errors in terms of discipline, but they defended their line pretty doggedly. Name the try scoring passes Wigan dropped, or the times they knocked on over the line? I was at the match and off the top of my head I can't recall any. Truth is, Leeds hung in there, regrouped, and came out firing in the second half. Isn't that what good teams do? Will we get away with going 14 down against the same opposition this week? Almost certainly not, but that's Saturdays problem. Just don't understand how you can take so little pleasure in the positives.

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Quote: tad rhino "wigan should have been 40 up. isn't that obvious? as for the stupid passes yes but guess what? start playing with aggression and doing the hard stuff, dominating in defence, then you get rewards too.
snap shots? it was hardly 5 minutes. 40 minutes of garbage and 40 minutes traditional RL.
uncle Tony tried to be revolutionary in 2006. how did that end up? he reverted to proper RL in 2007.
guess you see what you want to see'"


But they weren’t 40 up were they? But oh I forgot that’s because of how poor they are, nothing to do with us obviously. If everything in sport was as it should be then nobody would watch. You would decide at the start of the year who should win what games and SL and then that would just be that wouldn’t it. Ridiculous argument.
There is a subtlety to the point I am making but I hope you would appreciate it. If you throw a stupid pass, in the wrong part of the field and early in a set then if you drop it or knock on you simply can’t do what you call ‘tough stuff’ as you don’t have the ball. If you throw those passes when it’s appropriate, in the right part of the field and they stick then guess what you still have the ball and you can do ‘tough stuff’
You seem to suggest we don’t want or like ‘tough stuff’ but against what most consider one of the most physical teams in SL away from home, down at half time, down to 12 and with 1 sub down we seemed to ‘tough stuff’ without issue didn’t we?
A snapshot is looking at half a game and making a point, it’s 80 minutes and two halves. If you had some balance to what you said and looked at the whole game it wouldn’t be an issue would it.
Traditional RL? I mean what even is that? You talk about aggression, you talk about tough stuff. Seems to me you bounce around on what’s traditional and what’s not, what you like and what you don’t; what’s a revolution, what’s not. However, what is super super clear is you don’t like Smith, I honestly don’t think it would matter what he did, how we played, if we win or we don’t. There is always something to moan about isn’t there.

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Leeds' goal line and scramble defence was good at times in that first half though I'd also imagine with the weight of momentum, territory and possession that wigan will have been dissapointed to only have an 8 pt lead at half time as they just didn't stretch us enough. We cant keep risking giving big starts in these first halves as inevitably good teams who are really on it will play against our style and look to be out of sight come half time.

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Quote: Seth "Leeds' goal line and scramble defence was good at times in that first half though I'd also imagine with the weight of momentum, territory and possession that wigan will have been dissapointed to only have an 8 pt lead at half time as they just didn't stretch us enough. We cant keep risking giving big starts in these first halves as inevitably good teams who are really on it will play against our style and look to be out of sight come half time.'"

They might have been disappointed, but they didn’t create a hatful of chances either…..

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Yeah that's what I'm saying. Disappointed they didn't ask enough questions, not that they bombed chances but just didn't create enough.

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