I enjoy the scenarios being played out at this time of year, because it's all conjecture. If football or any sort played out like this it wouldn't be fun. Forest will look at Southampton as a must win game. That didn't mean it's a banker. We had loads of must win games over April and lost them all. Likewise, aside from city, we can take points from any of our other games, I don't have confidence that we will though. Dire as we have been though, we still have a chance. Pressure and passion make strange things happen at this time of year.

This club gone from Bielsa to Big Sam. Absolute laughing stock! Only hope is Forrest and Everton loosing all games, and complete rebuild over summer…..

Interesting listening to the athletic football podcast yesterday about Leeds. It’s been a classic case of how to sink a football club by Radz and Orta. Bad decision after bad decisions since the 9th place finish.

They are thought to be financially well placed to go all in for a one year or even two year bounce back up if relegated. They’ve also qualified for a 3rd year parachute payment but it’s £90m less than they get in Prem in the 3rd year. Stand to lose about £50m Prem tv money in year one of relegation. There’s some thought Radz may try and stay next season if we go down and go all in to get back up first time. We will see

Most things about following sport involves conjecture. What isn't is that leeds do have (statistically) the hardest run in. If they survive it will have been well earned over the last 4 games.

Bringing Allardyce in is like being the Ant Hill Mob in Wakey Races. I appreciate he is mates with the CEO but is this really the best a club of Leeds size can muster? Luddite soccer!!

who else could they get at this stage? for me it wasn't gracia.
it's quite clear some of the players aren't fussed. they will get a move and big signing on fee.
some player obviously are giving it all. some plainly aren't

It will all come out in the wash. We're already hearing reports of a rift between different factions in the dressing room. Reports also that the board wanted to sack Marche before the world cup and bring Emery in, but Orta threatened to resign if he was sacked. Talk about a sliding doors moment!

And Orta wanted Javi to stay til the end of the season, thats why hes gone.

Sounds like he backs his decisions too much.

No serious coach was ever going to work with Orta hence the reason he ended up with Marsch

Some of those that are trying are simply not good enough - Ayling, Cooper, Bamford Aaronson. Add that to Meslier who has a confidence crisis. The defence looks shot - classic Cooper on Sunday for the third goal.

Yes, we held onto Marsch too long and that was down to Orta. Bad decision after bad decision...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
But I do believe the win against Liverpool convinced the Board to stay with Marsch and tbh I would have thought the same then.
Gracia whilst it appeared was tactically sound he let himself down by a) sticking with Meslier for the Fulham game and onwards and b) refusing to pick Gnonto choosing to stick with Aaronssen oh and playing Harrison who cannot tackle as a LB.
Anyone with half a soccer brain could see those decisions were wrong and contributed to his downfall.
What gets me is the so called senior players like Bamford, Ayling, Cooper and Harrison moaning to the Board about Gracia yet those very same senior players have performed like Championship players at best all season.