Weve lost our way in both the transfer market and also in player retention thats for certain. I do think the club tried to add quality this off season tho so far that hasnt worked out for whatever reason.

The club management does seem stale tho. The ticket office is a joke, the merchandising well its laughable really. The hard core fans are taken for granted thats for certain.

Given the price of a burger and chips at the stadium it might be cheaper to go corporate and get a 3 course meal. Jeez £7 for 3 chicken nuggets and chips.

Oh boy im getting old.

Saints season ticket holders go free to academy and reserve games which are played at Saints ground. We have to pay £4 to stand in the Stanningley mud under garbage floodlights. Leeds can surely do better than that? Its simply not good enough.

This was obviously coming. That squad has reduced in quality year on year. We are now far worse playing staff wise than when Murray came to the club in '98.

I never thought McDermott would take the club forward and handle the transition as senior players retired and he didn't. It's no mystery where we are, under McD we had most of our worst seasons overall in SL in terms of consistency week in week out. He squeezed what was left out of the likes of Peacock, Mags etc. (or more accurately they showed what born winners and competitors they were and refused to go quietly) but it was clear when those guys ll finally hung up their boots there was nothing in terms of league form to suggest we were going to be competitive . McD laid the foundations of where we are now and Agar finished the job. However, ultimately it's people at the club (you know who I mean) who let this situation develop in the first place. Has Gary lost the passion for it?

This is the most mediocre side I've seen occupy Leeds shirts since I first started watching the team back in 1982. And that includes the sides that barely avoided relegation. We were completely skint in the 90's when Dean Bell had to pull on a shirt, we don't have that excuse now.

This has been like this too long now to believe that it's a blip or a rebuilding phase. There is something more fundamental that needs changing at the top of the organization. Something fresh and committed, a good coach coming in for two years might save us from complete humiliation but he's not going to rebuild this wreckage.

At the start of this thread I suggested GH needs to step aside - he has been superb for Leeds since he came but we all reach a level of ability and we have to admit that it is time to give way to new ideas. The club is limited to his ability and that is real problem for Leeds at the moment. No successor has been groomed or identified - that is poor for any organisation. Nepotism or positive discrimination e.g. JJB gets an assistant coaching role with no elite level coaching experience - sends out the message that this isn't a meritocracy its a mates club.

The coaching appointment will be compromised by the need to retain the likes of JJB - very unlikely GH is going to give a coach free reign to appoint his own people. Plus they will have to work with Agar as DOR!! Furner went because the club didn't like some home truths - which are there for all to see - which if the rumours are true JJB objected to and deliberately under-mind Furner.

It will be both interesting to see who the coach is and how long it takes to find one.

Social media link to an open letter from GH that doesn't work... Yeah sums it up well.

GH is leaving on a jet plane...
... to fly to Aus to interview people

Which is what he should’ve been doing for over a year.