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Quote: krisleeds "Walker - Looks shot. No pace and positioning suspect

Briscoe - He. Is. Not. A. Centre. Dreadful.

Sutcliffe - Also. Not. A. Centre. Was off to Cas before COVID hit and all of a sudden u-turns. Stood having 'banter' with Connor at 31-0 down. WTF?

Handley. Yes he scores tries. That's what wingers SHOULD do. But again positioning is dreadful. Always flying out of the line and leaving huge gaps.

Fusitua - Getting there. Has had bad luck.

Austin - Clear he tries. Defensively not great. But he is at least a bit of X-factor.

Sezer  - Missing again. Much like the second half of last season with Hudds. Commitment?!

Oledzki - Tried hard but is singled out and 2-3 men tackled every time

Johnson - Youth on his side

Prior - Great servant but time has caught up on him

Martin - Not a great game. Missed both kicks.

Gannon - 18. Bags of potential.

Tetevano - Was he even playing?

Thompson - No words

Mellor - A real modern day Ian Kirke

I struggled with the other players as they made zero impact.

We have Jack Broadbent, a centre scoring tire for fun in the reserves - can even get a game.

We have no go forward and i think its not patently obvious Agar is finished. We also have zero pace. When people are runnign at your at pace, you panic and we don't do that the the opposition.

The ONLY good game (barring Warrington as we cant really quantify that due to cards) was the 1st half vs Wakey when Newman played. As soon as he went off, we dropped.

Changes to be made?

Wane for Agar?

Leilua in from Fev (lets have 2 PROPER centres FFS)

A prop from somewhere!

Last night we lost (nearly nilled) to a bang average Hull side, badly, at home. Things HAVE to change or supporters will stop going.'"

I wouldn`t call Hull bang average. Inconsistant is more like it.Never know which team is going to turn up.

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Quote: chapylad "That`s what I said.
Gale was/is a good player but Agar didn`t like him.
Maybe Agar and Long possibly want their halves to play their way which is surprising if Longs involved as he was a much better half back than what we currently have/had recently.'"



i alluded on here a few weeks back about austin not settling in as well he could have, he was mustard at warrington for not following the game plan, i heard from a few seperate sources that briers absolutely hated working with him, wouldn't surprise me if long was of similar mindset.

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Don’t know about you but I have to work with people that I don’t like or that aren’t easy but still get on with my job and get it done. That excuse just doesn’t wash

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Austin has a particular style and his strengths and weaknesses have been known for a long time. Ditto Sezer. Why would any halfback coach try to do anything other than get them to play to their respective strengths?

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Quote: Big Jim Slade "Whereas Matty Lees, LMS and Kyle Amor have done what exactly? Saints have one superstar prop in Walmsley, one who looks like he might become a superstar in Lees and the rest are just 'average SL forwards' playing in a pack that wins its battles more often than not thanks to a cracking back row and some excellent coaching. Oledzki is definitively not average, he has shown that. Everyone agrees he's a special player. He would be in every SuperLeague 17. Every one.'"


That's exactly how the golden generation operated. Peacock and to a degree Kylie backed up by average plodders (Bailey, Kirke, Griffin etc.).

Mik is a great talent and prospect, and should go on to be that Peacock type player, but he's not quite there yet. He needs to be given time to develop without the pressure of carrying the pack.

I think we slightly overlook how much our backrow did during the golden generation. Ablett and JJB were an unreal backrow pairing, with unbelievable engines. They did so much works in D that allowed Peacock and Kylie to focus more on taking the ball up the middle. Ablett had a poor end to his Leeds career, but you could argue he was our most consistent/under-rated player for a number of years.

Our current backrow options include Bentley (needs to stay on the field), Martin (good all-rounder but can go missing), Gannon (amazing prospect, but too early for him) and Mellow (great athlete, but personally I think he's too soft).

Our props are all athletic and fit, but there's not one big body in there that's hard to handle the way Satae was on Thursday. With Holroyd injured, our recruitment in the off season looks a lot poorer.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Come on Chris, Oldeski wouldn't get anywhere near the current Saints side - Newman is a great talent but he is no Percival or Hopate at this stage.

How many forwards do we need - we have 15 out of 25 - perhaps its the quality that is really the problem not quantity.'"


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