What the **** was that? Utterly deflating after Warrington Wolves performance. Few walk out of that with credit. What the hell had they been doing in training the last week? That was truly awful. Any ideas anyone to explain that?

Aye it was cold!

I think as fans we probably live too much in the moment, by that I mean we take the latest result snd extrapolate it out over a season.

We were poor wigan were good, might all be different in a few weeks/months time.

Jai field seems to be the greatest player of all time, next week he might have a shocker!


Really big game for us Thursday they need to repay us fans that travelled last night!

Missing 7 of our best players. Remaining players nacked after big effort with 11 men at times last week.
Mik on one leg, Walker thrown back in way too early because Myler out.
My major criticism is we have no quality at centre with Newman out.

It happens sometimes with all sports teams.

In fairness theres not many times in the last year where ive thought they lacked effort, last night though was one of those times.

Think you are 100% wrong, it’s a major point.
In the play off win v Wigan we just got away with it because Wigan offered nothing on attack.
Fast forward to last night and again it was clear the game plan was give them back the ball near the corner, I know the weather was bad but we should be trying to score tries when 10 yards from their line.

Actually I thought for the first 20 minutes we looked very good. Games can turn on the smallest things. If Tindall had cut back inside we might well have got a 2nd try and they might have had one binned. Maybe heads wouldn't have gone down like they did. Maybe, maybe, maybe . . .

Even allowing for Tindall going in touch the collapse shouldn't have been that monumental on that incident.

Apparently it should not have been given. At the end of the sky coverage, Carney said Darryl Powell had told them off Camera, the rule is you can only kick the ball between the knee and toe and you can’t use the heel as Bibby did.

I’d never heard this before but if true we are in a scary world where a Cas fan knows more about the rules than Moore and Thaler put together. God help us.

Are we underestimating how much last week took out of them?

Oh yeah. No resilience shown at all. Do think the cumulative effect of players missing and last weeks draining efforts contributed.

On reflection....
Lots of good points made.
Walker and Sezer had poor games - both are better than that.
Walker has to be given some slack as he's been out for 2 years.
Prior and Tet played well - but we struggle when they are not on the field.
The rotations are not good enough.
Donaldson has the best tackling technique at the club - but absolutely nothing else.
Thompson and Mellor don't offer anything really.

We looked clueless when we were close to their line.
I know it's first game for Sezer and Austin, but we didn't look like scoring.
We actually missed Dwyer when we were close to their line.
It's a worry what Long is bringing - I really don't get this view of him being head coach.
We looked disorganised, disjointed, disinterested and unfit.
Quite a bit to be concerned about...

Oledski is not fit, but we had no other choice.
Briscoe is finished. And Sutcliffe had another poor game.
It must be time for Broadbent now.

In the end, we were burned for speed by Field.
An average player with speed to burn.
He'll score plenty of tries against the likes of us.
Against the top teams he will be anonymous.

Talking of speed, Tindall looked a threat - should get another shot.
Yeh, he messed up when he should have stepped inside Field, but he'll learn from that - and we all jumped out of our seat!!

And what was Agar doing putting Johnson in the centre??
Ridiculous - I worry about some of the in game coaching decisions and rotations tbh.

No complaints about the ref this week.
Moore is probably the best ref.
Didn't get much wrong.
Yellow card was harsh, but the game was gone by then.
And we give far too many 6 again's away - they killed us.