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Quote: Bullseye "Two things really. One – Odsal and surrounding area (the main centre for RL in the city) shares its hinterland with a lot of Kirklees and Calderdale. Look at Odsal on a map and a mile down the road to the south you’re in Kirklees. A few miles further and you’re in Halifax. That means a lot of the Bradford “heartland” isn’t actually in Bradford. But just because its not the Bradford council area doesn’t mean the club shouldn’t be able to call kids in those areas “their own” most of our support comes from that part of the world. Elsewhere in the city is more football centric and in the north west you’d have a job persuading anyone in the Keighley area they have anything to do with Bradford. As for the east toward Thornbury and Bradford Moor and it’s not RL or football. In the centre around Manningham it used to be football but isn’t anything now. I guess what I’m saying is that you can skew things when plotting RL development on a map of local authority areas. RL allegiance doesn’t fit those boundaries. I grew up in Pudsey and have been a Bradford fan since 1980! I do know though that player ID is thing we’ve worked on hugely and that’s why we’ve seen the likes of the Pryces, Bateman, Whitehead and Trueman come through since the Bulls came along.

Second point does it matter who improves the player development pool? What really matters is that it is done well and whoever does it well does the whole game a service. We’ve done it well at Bradford and made a better fist of it than most, despite the lack of money or the RL hinterland.

I didn’t make my point clear. Nobody took Bentley. He was a free agent at the end of 2016 just like the whole squad that was picked over by other clubs. Nobody was interested in signing him, not Dewsbury, not York or Fev but Bradford did once we started again and as you say we did a good job with him afterwards.

I hope that’s right. It hasn’t been on occasion for one reason or another but most Bradford fans with a brain are really grateful for the loan players we’ve had. Leeds in particular have been really good.

As I already said all clubs would see the fan numbers drop if they went through what we did. Don’t kid yourself you wouldn’t see Leeds attendances fall to 4 or 5k or less if you went through the same thing. As I said I remember Leeds getting crowds like that when they weren’t successful. All clubs would be affected in the same way. Nobody is immune. Nevertheless we do get better gates than anyone else in the Championship despite 3 administrations, 1 liquidation, 2 relegations and losing a heap of home grown players to our rivals.

As for giving out licenses we don’t deserve one yet. I don’t recall saying we do. I hope we do get back into the elite at some point but there’s a lot of work to do.'"

Great to speak to another Pudsey Lad.Interesting place Pudsey because I remember as a kid my dad telling me you could split his work place down the middle.Literally half loved rhinos and half loved the bulls.

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "When it’s in full flow there’s not much better sights than a Bradford vs. Leeds game. I was born in 1995 so have been extremely lucky to have been watching the Bulls since 99 right through their pomp. And have videos of pre-2001 games too. And to see the rise of Leeds in that period as well.

As a kid the rivalry was exciting. Ronnie the Rhino and Bullman engaged with both sets of fans and it was really a great day out. It captured kids attention and really got people invested in rugby. I’ve always played (since I was 5 anyway). But some of my mates are football fans and even they used to love coming to Bulls vs Leeds games.

There were some epic games to be fair
The away game in 99 is one of my faves even though we lost to a last minute Withers drop goal, if memory serves. Great night, brilliant atmosphere. Often it is the away games that stick in the memory.

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'99 cup semi should be on that list.
These games were great whilst they lasted, but the enmity was new-found and hasn't truly lasted beyond what happened for a few years on the pitch.

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I go back to 1980 when I started going to matches. In my experience our rivalry with Fax is on a par with what we have with Leeds although as a kid in Pudsey the enmity with Leeds was fuelled by my own bunker mentality being as I seemed to be surrounded by Loiners.

As I remember back in the 80s the Leeds fans in the South Stand used to sing "the green green grass of Headingley" and referred to Bradford Northern before than Cas or Trinity. Hunslet never get a mention.

Since we stopped being a threat to Leeds I think a lot of the enmity between the clubs has disappeared. The resolution of the Harris case and departure of Caisley obviously helps. Leeds have done a lot to help us get up off the canvass in comparison with other neighbouring clubs.

As for our big games in the 90s and 00s the game hasn't filled that gap.

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Quote: Bullseye "I go back to 1980 when I started going to matches. In my experience our rivalry with Fax is on a par with what we have with Leeds although as a kid in Pudsey the enmity with Leeds was fuelled by my own bunker mentality being as I seemed to be surrounded by Loiners.

As I remember back in the 80s the Leeds fans in the South Stand used to sing "the green green grass of Headingley" and referred to Bradford Northern before than Cas or Trinity. Hunslet never get a mention.

Since we stopped being a threat to Leeds I think a lot of the enmity between the clubs has disappeared. The resolution of the Harris case and departure of Caisley obviously helps. Leeds have done a lot to help us get up off the canvass in comparison with other neighbouring clubs.

As for our big games in the 90s and 00s the game hasn't filled that gap.'"


Bradford Northern / Bulls will always be the fiercest derby game for Leeds RL / Rhinos IMO purely down to my schooling experiences
I went to Cardinal Hinsley GS in Bradford as a kid and was the only Leeds RL fan in the school, When Northern beat Leeds all of the kids used to wait for me on a Monday morning and let me have it big time, Even my school teachers and Rugby Union coaches at the school used to let me have it too icon_lol.gif
But surprisingly when Leeds won none of these masses were anywhere to be seen icon_wink.gif

I have numerous friends that are still die hard Bradford fans and the great banter between us still lives on to this day

The Rhinos v Bulls in it's ultimate pomp was box office and both grounds regularly got sold out, I really miss this derby game

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