We need a new coach because Leeds have been inconsistent under him.

Agar inherited a squad of de- motivated players of very average ability. We note have a fully motivated squad, that lacks quality in key positions. If we can pray Walker stays fit next year, somehow fix our atrocious dummy half distribution then no reason Agar can’t go and win something next year.....

We will not win anything with one out drives , we lack a Walmsley , a class centre and a winger plus a coach that can coach

You realise we have already won something with Agar in charge

Looking back, having instilled a better culture, Agar won over a lot of fans with a masterclass of wet weather rugby that dumped Wigan from a cup semi. I'm beginning to wonder whether there's much difference between that and his take on a masterclass of dry weather rugby.

Agar has done what we needed,steadied the ship.

We need more than that now.

To me watching Agar's side is like watching Kear's sides - very basic game plans and very little attacking structure/flair - it is dull.

However if you change to a coach with a radically different coaching concept and style you can often go backwards as many of the players don't work with the new coach. Where Saints have been very good this time is the change from coach to coach is often seamless same at Wigan when they moved to Wane.

The next coach needs to top draw with a brief to develop the young players no matter what the short term implications are i.e. missing the play offs but they need to develop a style that makes people want to watch the team again.

Thing is there are very few coaches in the game who would be fit for Leeds - and even fewer who are available.

I mean is there an argument that the assistant/technical coaches are more important to get right...? Agar can only give game plans which the players have the ability to fulfil. On the evidence of the 2 Saints games, before Sezer, Austin and Bentley come in, the current squad is short.

I view Agar the same way I viewed Powell in 02/03. He's been the right coach at the right time, but he's not going to be the coach to take us to the next level.
He's done great job, but if we can get a better coach, we should go for it.

The DOR role requires excellent knowledge of the game, really good contacts in Australia, being an excellent judge of a player plus an ability to screw people down on contracts without thinking they've been screwed on their contract.

We've been blessed with pretty much the best in the business doing all that for is for the last couple of decades but he doesn't want to do it any more. I don't know what Agar's negotiating is like but every one in the game says his Rugby League contact list and knowledge base is outstanding so he would seem to have at least a few of the right criteria.

Agree