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Saints will probably win three on the trot because they are significantly better than the rest. But anything can happen in a one-off game. Last night the Rhinos were blown away by amazing line speed and group defence right across the park, not just the forwards. Regardless of any creativity in the half’s, if your pack is retreating the game is lost. However, we have much to learn from this season and should look forward to 2022 and beyond with optimism. The additions to the squad will bring more balance and with a bit of luck with injuries we should make a stepped improvement. We have weaknesses in the team and lack of pace in wide areas but we should remain positive moving forward. I feel the future will be good for the Rhinos and I do sense for the competition as whole. We will not be the only team making a major improvement in 2022.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "All good points well made.

Lets take Saints out of the equation tho, our development as a team isnt at Saints' level at this stage. We have been down the bottom of the league for a few years recently. Leeds' 1st aim was to steady, then grow and be more consistent and produce young talent. We are doing that i think. We arent at Saints' level yet and its wrong to compare us with that tho they are clearly the benchmark

Next year we have a top 4, maybe top 2, squad. Weve a lot of highly talented kids developing, far better than any other club in this country, far better. Think about this, in 5 years time Gannon will be only 22, Mikolaj, Cam, Harry, Tommy will be just starting to reach their prime and theres many others Broadbent, Corey etc so Leeds are in a very strong position. The likes of Wigan, Warrington dont have our talent pool and the junior talent pool is drying up.

Our aim next year shouldnt be to beat Saints it should be to target a top 3 finish. We are doing ok. But if we are full strength we wouldnt win at Saints very often but we are capable of beating the rest now and we are still developing as a group.'"


Agree with a lot of the above - you under estimate Wigan's youth development - they now have three top coaches with extensive experience and a knowledge of how important youth development is.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Agree with a lot of the above - you under estimate Wigan's youth development - they now have three top coaches with extensive experience and a knowledge of how important youth development is.'"


Absolutely but their talent pool is extremely poor at the moment. Our 17s arent great and they still rattled 40 past Wigans. They have some young players in 1st team but they dont have much behind them. Were much stronger in junior development at the moment.

Financially too i believe we are stronger.

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Financially too i believe we are stronger.'"

We are massively stronger - when you look at the state of them off the field we are in a different league to Wigan who seem to be spectacularly badly run in almost every aspect.

However the money in the background at Wigan is bigger (a lot bigger) even than Caddick or Coleman at Saints, if they decided to spend it on the RL club.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "We are massively stronger - when you look at the state of them off the field we are in a different league to Wigan who seem to be spectacularly badly run in almost every aspect.

However the money in the background at Wigan is bigger (a lot bigger) even than Caddick or Coleman at Saints, if they decided to spend it on the RL club.'"


Coleman is actually the richest man in SL and by a long margin. He just doesnt like the limelight and is happy for McManus to be the man

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Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Coleman is actually the richest man in SL and by a long margin. He just doesnt like the limelight and is happy for McManus to be the man'"

Coleman's wealth is rather opaque but it's probably he is richer than Caddick. Not likely to be in Mike Danson's league though (although Danson only has a minority stake at the moment).

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