Don't understand why Mellor and or King weren't playing last night , if they were fit . T Briscoe cold have gone back to wing , Hurrell as centre or don't bother playing him and we would have had more size . Doubt we'd have won but at least we might have put up a better performance.

I know mate but come on, Prior and Zane have 10 years experience on the young lads and are probably paid 2-4x their salaries too. Apples and oranges.

Plus in Mik’s case I don’t think he’s fit. I think they’ve rushed him back early from his injury because they knew we wouldn’t have any hope without him, even at 70%.

Newman’s confidence sometimes strays into over-confidence but he’s nowhere near his peak yet.

Get what you’re saying - there wasn’t any player I was totally happy with last night. Fair to say on the evidence of these 2 games against Saints all our players have things to work on before next season. Can’t stress enough how we’re hampered by 9, 6 and 7 being all over the place. Depressing thing for me was that we were we beaten down the middle too though.

and a full back , winnger , centre , prop , second row , lf



sts have evolved their side better over the years, certainly not as many past their sell by date as we have had for a number of years, much like wigan sed to without breaking the bank

Think Prior is just burnt out, Oledski just not fit and we new that was a risk, Tet is just poor and a massive disappointment, Bodene Thompson out played him last night. He turns his back into nearly every tackle then ends up on his back for a slow play the ball, he rushes up to make the big hit and mainly just bounces of, goes low drops of the tackle. Can we have Ben cross, Mark ONeil or David Barhill Back.

Newman should never have been in a position where he had to kick, that’s down to saints being dominant and our options at hooker and half back

Mik was clearly not fit I think your being a bit harsh on them

People putting a loot of faith into a player who as played hardly any Super League ir open age rugby and has a commitment/attitude problem, people making out he’s Danny Buderous. We have a really good hooker who is arguably our player of the year, made the dream team and had to play out of position. What more fo people want. If Leeming hets a full year at hooker he is likely to be in the world cup squad.

Agree with that. I’d written us off last night as soon as I saw Dwyer was starting at 9. When you’re attacking everything starts with the pass / scoot / jump from the dummy half. Dwyer’s distribution is simply not good enough.

Fair comment. He's overseen a much needed overhaul I'd agree

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No I'm not. I really like both. I'm just pointing that as fans we often seem blind to the failings of our home grown players, whilst being really keen to give the overseas lads a bashing.

Yep and leeming's limitations in the halves just compound it. He can throw a half decent pass from dummy but falls far short when picking a runner while on the move, especially when moving it on any distance.
That said, a fit gale and new signings mean leeming reverts to starting hooker and Dwyer impact sub which obviously corrects a lot of problems

Correct though hopefully the coaches provide more objectivity. Enthusiasm is great but I'd hope there's more said behind closed doors.