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We were blown away last night, no different to what happened a couple of weeks ago.
Some on here were saying history wouldn’t repeat itself, well it did. Too many mistakes, we had ideas in attack and they walked through us like a hot knife through butter.
We need some serious surgery to get to the level of Saints and Catalans. No excuses other than we ain’t anywhere near good enough.
We need a top quality coach not the existing coaching team.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "All good points well made.

Lets take Saints out of the equation tho, our development as a team isnt at Saints' level at this stage. We have been down the bottom of the league for a few years recently. Leeds' 1st aim was to steady, then grow and be more consistent and produce young talent. We are doing that i think. We arent at Saints' level yet and its wrong to compare us with that tho they are clearly the benchmark

Next year we have a top 4, maybe top 2, squad. Weve a lot of highly talented kids developing, far better than any other club in this country, far better. Think about this, in 5 years time Gannon will be only 22, Mikolaj, Cam, Harry, Tommy will be just starting to reach their prime and theres many others Broadbent, Corey etc so Leeds are in a very strong position. The likes of Wigan, Warrington dont have our talent pool and the junior talent pool is drying up.

Our aim next year shouldnt be to beat Saints it should be to target a top 3 finish. We are doing ok. But if we are full strength we wouldnt win at Saints very often but we are capable of beating the rest now and we are still developing as a group.'"


Agree with a lot of the above - you under estimate Wigan's youth development - they now have three top coaches with extensive experience and a knowledge of how important youth development is.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Agree with a lot of the above - you under estimate Wigan's youth development - they now have three top coaches with extensive experience and a knowledge of how important youth development is.'"


Absolutely but their talent pool is extremely poor at the moment. Our 17s arent great and they still rattled 40 past Wigans. They have some young players in 1st team but they dont have much behind them. Were much stronger in junior development at the moment.

Financially too i believe we are stronger.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "
Financially too i believe we are stronger.'"

We are massively stronger - when you look at the state of them off the field we are in a different league to Wigan who seem to be spectacularly badly run in almost every aspect.

However the money in the background at Wigan is bigger (a lot bigger) even than Caddick or Coleman at Saints, if they decided to spend it on the RL club.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "We are massively stronger - when you look at the state of them off the field we are in a different league to Wigan who seem to be spectacularly badly run in almost every aspect.

However the money in the background at Wigan is bigger (a lot bigger) even than Caddick or Coleman at Saints, if they decided to spend it on the RL club.'"


Coleman is actually the richest man in SL and by a long margin. He just doesnt like the limelight and is happy for McManus to be the man

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Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Coleman is actually the richest man in SL and by a long margin. He just doesnt like the limelight and is happy for McManus to be the man'"

Coleman's wealth is rather opaque but it's probably he is richer than Caddick. Not likely to be in Mike Danson's league though (although Danson only has a minority stake at the moment).

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