For me he's done what was required considering the basket case he took over.
The CC Win a great bonus ,he has the respect of the squad & board room.
However if we are serious about taking the next step to be top 3 & regular GF contenders for me we need better & at this stage of our progress we need a Tony Smith type Coach who will cut the deadwood & give our best Youngsters the spots they deserve.
I dont think Agar has the nous or cut throat side to do it i really dont.
Also i dont like the excuses around injuries especially when his Squad & game management have contributed to those injuries.
Im happy for him to stay as DOR & Long to stay on the staff but i want a next level Coach.

Changing coach is probably more of a risk than leaving it. Agar may be similar to Powell in terms of the point in the young team's life cycle that he's in charge but he's a much more experienced and smarter coach than Powell was in his time at Leeds.

Yet Powell had the stones to ditch the deadwood & give our best Youngsters the shirts thry deserved ,he even cut 2 of his mates in Sheridan & Hay.
We played a much better brand of RL under Powell as well.
If we want to be back amongst the GF big hitters we need better than Agar simple as that.

Was it Powell or more likely Hetherington who made that call. I'm sure it was informed by the coach but Powell would definitely have leaned heavily on his mentor throughout that spell as GH was a vastly more experienced top flight head coach.

Certainly it was Hetherington who knew a change needed to be made as head coach after 2003, a much more personal and tricky decision than getting rid of ageing players Powell had only known a relatively brief time.

Yeah good point. Hetherington is a canny coach and club manager. Think we’ll go with Agar having another year with a top squad now. And appraisal en of that year......
Unless fans turn on Agar sooner which can always happen these sad days.....!

As I recall it Powell decided to play safe and drop Danny Mags for the Cup Final against Bradford despite his match winning heroics in the semi against Saints. Agar, on the other hand, definitely went for youth when picking Alex Sutcliffe for last years final. He also continues to give Gannon, O'Connor, Broadbent and any others who prove they are up to it a fair crack.

It was a tough call between having Burrow or McGuire on the bench to be fair to Powell and if Rob hadn't been knocked out pretty soon after coming on it may have been the correct tactical call. Given Danny had got us there though leaving him out was unfair from that perspective but there was no room for sentiment in that trophyless era.

I sometimes wonder what would have happened to us had the experiences of 2003 not happened, they were life lessons for those players be it the ability to win under pressure like in the semi, learning harsh tactical things like Sinfield not going for the 2 at Cardiff, losing all five games vs Bradford and then tumbling out of the play offs. It was a crucial year I think. That semi vs Saints also gave the players the lived knowledge of not being afraid of a team whose reputation as masters of knock out football went before them.

Absolutely. Not really arguing the rights and wrongs of it (although I would have picked him) but merely pointing out that DP, like any other coach, was pretty risk averse when it came to the crunch. 2003 ranks right up there with my favourite seasons in 42 years of watching Leeds.

It was a great season with some epic moments, the semi above all. But I won't ever forget the feeling of empty, inconsolable devastation after the cup final and after the play off loss to Wigan. Fortunately the years of winning stuff since means individual losses even in big games don't cause quite the same heartache now.

He picks them mostly when there are injuries preferring to have the likes of L.Briscoe as a sub to use for 5 monutes as a 9 when O'Connor is clearly better.
Re-Alex Sutcliffe he relues on him that much Alex turned down a deal here to leave for Cas to get game time.

Alex Sutcliffe is no dummy and he knows that he has outstanding young players like Newman, Broadbent, Edwards blocking his way in the centre and also Gannon/Walters ahead of him in the 2nd row. Cas have also probably offered him more. You can't keep them all. Worth remembering that when Danny McGuire really made his breakthrough in 2003 he was no longer a teenager. Compare that with young Gannon. Truth is, if you are good enough (enivitably injuries play a part) you'll get your chance. We all want the young kids to be great, however some take longer to develop and throwing them in before they are ready does them no good. Agar has good record in blooding youngsters for my money.