Briscoe has been absolutely brilliant for us. Personally I think people got far too carried away on the other side of the field, when in truth Briscoe at times was every bit as important and better for many a game. However, the key point is "has been", and right now where we are this is yet again poor management on the recruitment and squad front. This is not the same Briscoe and we should be moving on.

In all honesty, me personally I still think he is better than the other wing, but that doesn't make it right to keep him, and I repeat we should have moved on.

Absolutely

We might not have the budget to move on Gotcha. Keeping Tom could well be the best option which leaves us room to go get a really good prop etc. He’s been in good form this season and I think it’s a decent move in the current circumstances.

Briscoes workrate is far from first rate, handley is streets ahead of him in most aspects.

I want a proper prop; not Cuthbertson, Prior, Merrin etc but more of a Garbutt when he first came.

A big horrible thing that is hard to handle.

Agreed. He should be a hard tackling big metre maker if not then wait untill one is available.

100% agree

What's Barrie McDermott doing these days, can we clone him?

Same goes for Kylie Leuluai.

If you look on the other fotums, every fan basically asks for this every year....
Reality is that type of player is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
We dropped seriously lucky with Kylie, and Garbutt probation gets remembered more favourably than his short time with us deserved.
Garbutt vs Tamou is the thing I remember most from the last 3 years though......!

Probably get slated for this on here but someone like Kyle Amor would be ideal for us next season I think. For a few reasons our pack is pretty solid ( not exactly the same intimidating pack when we had the likes of JP, Leuluai and Lauiti'iti and others ) but it's stronger than we've had over the last couple of seasons. Oledzki and Seumanufagai are our big props making meteres and have a bit of wack about them, Prior adds experience and long minutes at 13 for us, Cam Smith is our ball playing pack man at 13 or coming off the bench for us, Donaldson is in there for his defence to rack up tackles and do the dirty stuff players don't really like doing and Holroyd is another big strong middle man for us but is young and only in his second full season with us and we need to allow him to develop properly as a player. So my point about Amor if he came in he adds experience to our pack after losing Cuthbo and Crosby next season he's 32 so could do 2-3 years if his body holds up, he's also been at the most consistent club arguably in SL history in St Helens and he's been in there pack consistently since he signed for them and won a few trophies since he's been there. He could do a job for us like he has for them when he's been on bench and put on to spell the likes of Walmsley and others in there pack. Amor is also off contract end of this season so could be a cheaper option for us as with all the Covid cut backs and everything I don't think we'll be splashing loads of cash for signings it's not really our style anyway and could allow us to save cash for when we need to hand out new deals in 2021. Obviously Amor has history with us and it didn't work out for him in his first stint with us but look at Luke Gale for us now.

Possible 2021 pack

8. Seumanufagai
10. Oldezki
13. Prior

15.Smith
16. Amor/ another new prop
17. Holroyd/ Donaldson/

Amor a possibility, but not really a solution, just a bit part player for Saints over the past couple of seasons . Might just discover another Kylie if we look hard enough