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Quote: Lprhino "There is no real way to record the number of deaths due to covid in real time. There
will always be a lag on the data from death certificates. There are issues in that not everybody who dies has a covid test, not all covid tests are 100% accurate and it is reliant upon the doctor who fills in the death certificate. Further issues the other way, not everybody who dies and has covid has died because of covid, they may have it but die from something else like a heart attack.

The objective way to look at the overall impact is excess mortality over a period of time. There are normally a certain number of deaths per period of each year, much higher in the winter. You can compare this years data to other years data once the data is collected to say the excess mortality over this winter or this year or this period has been much higher and say what the figure is.

A simple example, 14,000 have covid and a certain number attend hospital, because they attend hospital the other procedures, clinics and appointments don’t take place. This can be due to infection control, staff issues, equipment or a variety of other things.
In turn due to that lack of screening or treatment some of those patients may die or become very ill. That death or illness is due to covid, because without covid and 14,000 covid infections a day the screening, treatment and appointments would go ahead and things would be caught early and treated.


We are talking about wide ranging public health policy and issues. Just saying oh 14,000 have it today but not many people died is just overly simplistic, if it was that easy you wouldn’t need to study and train to specialise in public health you could just look at data and use your common sense. Interpretation of data and in particular health data is in itself a specialism.

Back to point on RL I think attempting games is a good idea although a full league seems silly as it isn’t going to be fair given different teams schedules, infections etc at different times. As long as there is some live sport I think Sky would be fine with it. Attempting to fit in so many games just doesn’t make sense. Asking people to return to stadiums when there are rising infection rates also seems silly. It is fairly much agreed large social gatherings significant increase the risk of infection spreading. I mean honestly how many people want to watch certain SL games on a midweek night? It’s limited numbers in the grand scheme of what is available on Sky.'"



Not a bad assessment. However, your "simple example" is nonsense. Their deaths would not be "due to covid", it would be due to government & health institutions' reactions to covid. A totally different thing. According to that thinking, my wife contracts covid, I drive her to the hospital having had three large glasses of wine. I lose control of the vehicle, crash & kill her & me. I only made that journey because my wife had covid. Therefore covid deaths: add 2.

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Quote: chapylad "Another good performance after a shaky start.
The one thing we did find out last night is that Myler is not a half back.

I must be the only one who has thought Handley to be a good winger.
Yes he has the odd blip but overall far better than the Briscoes and is getting better all the time.
Same with Donaldson who puts his body on the line every time he plays and puts in a bucket load of tackles.
Mik again played well so did Gale.
For me I would still play Myler at FB with Walker missing out.
Looks like Cuthbertson will get in to the 17 at the expense of Holroyd.
The only other comment is that if Mylers pass was called for a forward pass then the one from McNammara for Savelio`s try should have been called forward.
And not sure why Last didn`t stick Connor at HB as Mc Nammara had a decent game last time at FB.'"


I think we all knew that a cpl years ago to be honest icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Shabino "Wallet is the best full back at the club and is now fit. Think he will play. Myler has filled in manfully but misses out now for me, unless he gets a bench spot, but that's unlikely.'"

Myler v Walker at FB is just a slightly different approach, it will depend how Agar wants to play against Salford and where he sees their weaknesses.

Myler is a pain in the bum to defend when he supports and plays in the line, he can cause all sorts of problems as is often "Jonny on the spot".

Walker gives you a significantly better running game; but he has more errors in him and is more injury prone. A few years down the line I don't think it would be a contest, but right now it isn't cut and dried.

On balance I would still probably go for Walker, but it would be tough on Myler after all he's contributed to getting the side to the final in the first place.

I'm assuming Lui will be fit for the final. I'm quite liking Gale and Lui at half when the pack gets forward: gives us flow on either side of the field and headaches for the opposition.

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Quote: Shabino "Wallet is the best full back at the club and is now fit. Think he will play. Myler has filled in manfully but misses out now for me, unless he gets a bench spot, but that's unlikely.'"

Is wallet Walkers new nickname,( he likes the cash ) or just a freudian slip.
Either way Wallet sounds good.

On balance Myler has earned the shirt on merit, everyone fit, bench for Walker and either Dwyer or smith to lose out probably Dwyer as then myler can spell at Hooker.

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Strange that some people only seem to comment when we lose isnt it?

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Quote: rollin thunder "Is wallet Walkers new nickname,( he likes the cash ) or just a freudian slip.
Either way Wallet sounds good.

On balance Myler has earned the shirt on merit, everyone fit, bench for Walker and either Dwyer or smith to lose out probably Dwyer as then myler can spell at Hooker.'"


icon_lol.gif freudian I'm afraid. How apt!

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