Tindell looked brilliant. Why we pee about with Luke Briscoe, who looked shocking the whole game, god only knows.

McClelland really looked good, especially considering the players around him. With the right faith he could be so good.

Thought Harrison worked his balls off, always seemed to be there or there abouts.

Walters looked absolutely fine at this level. Overlooked far too long.

Shame just a few more experienced quality was not mixed in, as the result could have been different. Cuthbertson showing the way there with great leadership IMO. Also had we just put one of the first choice hookers in, think would have made a difference.

I know this moment has passed, but felt the need to reply.

Sorry to hear you've had to lay people off Sal, but don't think this isn't affecting all sectors. I work for Leeds City Council and right now we have huge financial challenges. During lockdown, we couldn't furlough staff which means that there was a full wage bill without many income streams being open. This includes things like leisure centres, parks and attractions. Coupled with the fact that we had to maintain and, in some cases, increase services to support and protect some of the most vulnerable people in society AND the fact the government isn't providing the level of financial support that was expected - there is a big budget deficit. Right now there are voluntary redundancy and retirement options, but they won't reach the necessary levels of saving so there will be compulsory redundancies. So this myth that public sector is a job for life is very dated. I know of people with young families that have been told their areas will face redundancies.

You probably don't need to know this but I think it's important to remember that everyone will be affected in some way by what the country has gone through. Now isn't the time to compete on who has it the worse. It's all relative and just because someone has commented on something, it doesn't mean they're exempt from going through a time.

As predicted a public servant who has a job for life - doesn't look like your department is facing any cuts - no wonder your asking for further pain to the vast majority!!

Given that the vast majority of council income comes from business rates how is a further one month lockdown going to help your budget deficit? A further one month lock down will see thousands of businesses go bust and the loss of even more council revenues plus further job losses. Perhaps you just expect us businesses to keep paying the council from our magic money tree?

The leader of Leeds council has asked the government to close bars and restaurants in Leeds on an on going basis - talk about self harm.

Public sector is full of people who are used to spending other people's money and when it runs out asking for more. Perhaps sometime in the private sector might awaken a reality to what it is like when you don't have a safety net? When the worst that can happen is Roundhay Park doesn't get it roses pruned when it should

Sal genuinely believes people in the public sector live comfortable unchallenged lives.
It's so laughably untethered to reality that you have to wonder where it comes from.
And I say this as someone who has worked in the private sector my entire life and enjoyed one administration and liquidation but I know people who work for public sector and his description makes me think somehow he doesn't.

I'm trying to work out if you're having a laugh or really a pretentious plick

Could be both

No just a realist who is paying tens of thousands of pounds in business rates and I have to pay extra to get my bins emptied - the idea that we could simply just close down for month is pretentious - not a lot of fun having to make really good people redundant!!

Easy to say let's have another month of lockdown from your secure ivory tower - perhaps you would like to sit in the next time we make really good people redundant through no fault of their own.

Send me a PM with your email address and will invite you in - you can then see what its like at the sharp end of the private sector and the decisions that have to be made to protect the majority of the workforce

When did I mention a 4 week lockdown? And when I have mentioned an ivory tower? I live in Cas ffs, there's none of them round here.

A realist is someone who accepts a situation for what it is. I just gave some information about public sector that it isn't all rosey for us, but you ignored it and got back on your soapbox about private having it worse. My wife, family and friends work in private sector. I have friends who own businesses that would struggle through another lockdown. I'm intelligent enough to understand the situation and empathetic enough to know the stress and pressure it's putting on people.

I don't know what satisfaction or pleasure you get from making out you're having it worse than others. Life is relative. My wife loses her job, it puts us in a bad situation. Me being in the public sector doesn't make it less so. Maybe I have a bit more job security, but that can change. My service has been drastically reduced because of austerity. But you probably know that because you seem to know everything about me from the few lines I've said here.

I didn't try and belittle your post. I was just highlighting that the effects of covid will be felt by everyone. Try stepping back for a second and looking at the full picture. That private and public sector go hand in hand. They rely on each other. And in both, a lack of money means people lose their jobs. I sincerely hope that you and your staff make it through. It would be nice if you looked outside your bubble and understand what the rest of the world is facing too

I was responding to the original post suggesting a month lockdown which you then posted some sarcastic comment - my response was exactly what your comment deserved.

A realist is someone who tries to mitigate the situation they are in reduce risk - not a difficult concept even for you. You have no idea what it is like so don't try and pretend you do. Knowing someone who has lost their job is not the same as having to tell them - you like the other poster work in the cushy public sector funded by businesses like mine.

I don't what area of the public sector you work in but I would agree there has been a tightening of the belt - in sum areas probably justifiable and some areas probably not.

I am looking at a situation whereby good people not just in my business but in all business are losing their jobs - for what - less deaths than those caused by smoking. We had 70 Covid deaths and 7000 infections roughly half of one percent of all people tested - does the end justify means? Has it been worth crashing the whole economy - the idea of further negative impact is beyond comprehension.

I would agree we need a mixed economy but its a bit rich coming from a poster in a secure public sector position to suggest carte blanche increasing the risk to those in a less secure roles.

Offer again if you want to sit in the next round just let me know - perhaps it will sharpen your sense of perspective and you will see things outside of your little bubble

LOL. Ironic.

Having to tell people they are out of a job is crap but loosing someone is worse. Once this is "over" businesses can rebuild and the unemployed will hopefully get other jobs. There has to be a balance though as no money in means no nhs/police etc. Have we got the balance right? Maybe in theory but too many breaking rules