It's always interesting when we, the fans, think we know what goes on in a club, let along an individual's mind.

GH has been both lauded and made a Scape goat many times over, that's just part of the role. Certainly we have suffered some lean years very recently compared to the trophies won over the last 15 years or so. The club, and by extension GH, have moved to fix this though.

We are back producing good young players and mixing them with talented home and foreign players. We have a much better balanced squad now. Yes, we are not at the level of the Mags, Sinny etc but that group were a rare group.

If this is GH protecting his own interests then I am ok with that.

What do you mean "Caddick doesn't have the same holding in the club"? He does from a factual viewpoint.

Gotcha is bang on GH has been outstanding but lets not have that gloss over his WTF moments in recent Years one perfect example is spaffing 500k from the Rhinos coffers on a destined to fail Carnegie RU project which only ended up with a 45k return. Now i'll never claim to be a sports administrator nor a brilliant business man but NOBODY with any common sense would invest 500 quid into that RU club let alone 500k. I also question aspects of recruitment/retention he & Sinfield have come up with.

Nobody has said he was perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. Yours is a perfectly good example. Others will rightly point to bad signings. Despite that he has been a major part of the club's success. Now he is building a squad once again capable of winning a hat full of trophies mixing youth and quality signings.

I really do wonder what fans want sometimes. No club should sensibly expect to be on top all of the time. Clubs go through transitions.

Try reading this, puts things in to a very good perspective https://www.totalrl.com/making-sense-of ... ent-plans/

Try reading this, puts things in to a very good perspective https://www.totalrl.com/making-sense-of ... ent-plans/

What does it say?

Says Leeds have been absent in transfer market, fans are getting restless, no surprise leeds are absent as we have had lots of turnover recently and are now settling down.

Honestly, it says nothing of substance. Just journo chat to fill a column.

I can totally understand what Gotcha is saying however even though people had to beg he did eventually give in to fund the £150k signing of Luke Gale this off season and the previous year 2 marquees was signed off so whilst GH's role and mindset has changed i dont for a second believe Gary doesnt want a Leeds team competing for honours every year. I will always hold GH in high regard for what he has done for Leeds.

In truth both GH and Mr Caddick have done ok with Leeds for a long time with little investment from them. Gary clearly wants the fans to waive the season ticket money refund and i am ok with that personally however nows the time for the owners to put their hand in their pockets to help the club out also. Leneghan put 500k into Wigan last week, Moran and Argylle are clearly funding their clubs plans. Its time for our owners to do the same in my opinion.

It's arguably a moot point but this needs correcting: what Leeds lost when the RU club went bust wasn't cash we'd put into them. It was money they owed for hire of the stadium etc.

Quite. Leeds have splashed huge amounts of cash around in the period since McDermott left.
Bringing Sinfield in, paying Furner to come, paying Furner to go, marquee signings, a whole bunch of transfer fees. People still parroting the old "Leeds don't spend enough" line need to update their material.

I think there is supposed to be a statement shortly about season tickets /memberships For next year. I guess they will be asking existing members to stand missed games this season for some kind of incentive next year. I for one am ok with that and I suspect most members will be but of course everyone has different circumstances. Assuming this is the case then I think Marty is right suggesting GH & PC need to dig deep in their own pockets. I still believe a club that has be as successfully run as Leeds with a raft of wealthy Corporate backers should be able to overcome the current situation. However be realistic and only expect replacements for those players who don’t resign but even the be realistic and don’t expect mega stars on big bucks!!