at what point does a club become established? London 40 years a professional club Gateshead/Newcastle over 22 years, Sheffield 36 years, or by established do we refer to "traditional clubs" Fact is the game as thrown so many expansion clubs under the bus over the years and missed so many opportunities. when the RL threw a million at gateshead hull merger why could they not just give it to Gateshead when Hull had over 120 years to get things right, same with Sheffield Huddersfield.

As a Leeds fan I think it's embarrassing yes, but the penny pinching at the club has been gong on for years.....

No. Leeds, who have just spent £25m on the stadium following £15m on the stadium over the previous 20 years followed by spending huge amounts, for the first time, on marquee players and significantly expanding the back room staff and employing Sinfield on no doubt £100k a year, have been anything but penny pinching over the past couple of years.

Hetherington has always been prudent, and has always driven a very, very hard deal. In the context of how the club has been run through Caddick-Hetherington era the fiscal extravagance of the past two seasons has been eye-opening.

yes its been going on for years , that is the obvious reason we won so many Grand Finals

And if we were penny pinching why pay a fortune for Merrin and Hurrel .

Oh dear...

Nonsense

How much have we spent on the new stands?

We have also had over the last 20 years the most successful period in the clubs history and had some pretty big signings along the way.