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Quote: Him "The attack had to become more one dimensional and essentially percentage based because of the improved defence.

Slowing the play the ball and faster line speed is definitely a sign of better defences.

It’s not just a case of them appearing better, they definitely are better.'"


There was a period where holding a player up then putting 3-4 bodies into a pile on became fashionable and it killed any momentum the attack could generate. I just don't see better defences, I don't see better tacklers and it's easier to have better line speed when the PTB is so slow - you are always set. Also, I definitely think defences "appear" better because we don't have enough players with genuine attacking skills. One prop who offloads came over from Australia to Leeds and caused total havoc in his first couple of seasons.
Any lump can wrestle and charge up and down the 10 metres to lie on a tackled player for 5 minutes while his mates get set. It's not pleasant to watch and it's eventually going to bore the sport to bankruptcy.

I do agree with what Christopher posted, pre 2000 ish the game was "ragged" and you can see the mistake count is high, but the 2000 decade was fantastic. Good balance between attacking skills and tough defence. There were some very good players in that era.

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Great video on the great Roy Francis.

https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g
Great video on the great Roy Francis.

https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g


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Quote: The Biffs Back "The NRL has had some fantastic commentators over the years and when you watched their live TV games,
Ray Rabbits Warren was the best commentator ever IMO'"


i agree. Warren probably the best for his longevity and smoothness a bit like martin tyler from the football over here but i loved darryl eastlake who did all the aussie tests and state of origin games 80s and early 90s him of henderson gill 'doing a bit of a boogie!' fame had some great catch phrases and his tone was quality. of today i like vossy.

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Quote: DHM "It would be interesting to see how many times he touched the ball on average in a league compared to Union. My feeling is that half backs and playmakers don't transition well from League to Union because too much comes off 9. If you've got pace and power then it's different. Jason Robinson was just a wind up toy, put the ball in his hands and off he went. Perfect for either code.
Different type of fitness as well, you don't get the physical battering in Union. I guess he lost that perpetual motion game he had at Leeds. You watch him back then and he never stopped moving, he carried the ball in a lot as well, so much balance. But he got the ball when he wanted it, you can't do that so much in Union because all the fat boys get in the way.'"


Im no Union fan but its a totally different sport to league and you cant really compare the two sports. You potentially only have the ball for 1 tackle in Union you arent guaranteed 6 if you dont drop it. League is a game of possession and Union a game of territory.

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Quote: christopher "Watching these games from late 90s to the mid to late 2000s what strikes me is hoe Harris’ time in Union seemed to change him, he was for Leeds he was one of the most naturally gifted RL players of his generation, then just seemed to be a bit part player on his return at Bradford - a real shame really'"

Iestyn was such a natural player, but not a natural athlete, speed off the mark and body swerve, but Lacked real pace over anything above 30-40 meters, Think he had to work really hard on his fitness and weight in his first spell in league, he put a bit of weight on in union and lost some fitness, maybe only 5-10kg and lost 10% fitness, but that was enough to lose his impact. Stayed in league he would have been hall of fame.

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