I'm not sure who in that squad would lead a "player power" revolt tbh. I've no idea what went on but for me, in the last year (possibly longer) there's absolutely no one I wouldn't have dropped/being disappointed to see shipped out. You'd expect the older players to be the ones wanting to run the show and there arent a great deal of them that have come out of our last couple of seasons with much credit.

Anyhow, lets be honest, we'll never know the full story thought I suspect the fact that Furner stuck around and was probably paid off in the end tells you we probably didnt cover ourselves in glory.

Very few people actually know what happened with Furner, but JJB, Sinny, GH and Furner are some of them...

Agar talked about moving on from former glories and creating their own identity. Even if they believe in that philosophy having Sinfield, JJB, Peacock, Walker and Burrow around the place everyday isnt going to allow that to happen. Agar seems knowledgable but all the inspiration of a teapot. Hate to say it but sinfield looks and sounds lost. Can see another tearing up of the plan mid to late season again.

Agreed. What struck as weird was we had won 3/6 when he was sacked.
However, it’s all done now. Since then though we have been largely treading water. Ryan Carr appeared to have a very positive impact and certainly did at Fev. I don’t get the current structure having Webster giving part time impact and not personally convinced what fresh perspective Walker and JJB can currently add.
My personal view is that our head coach budget is still being allocated to pay Furner hence we have got agar in on the cheap and messing about with some part time input.

How do you know he's a yes man?

Do you really know there was poison?
By backing Furner that's something we will never know what we do know is Agar kept us up. Whether he can take us further that we will see. I Ddo have my doubts but that is more to do with the poor squad rather than Agar coaching ability.

Absolutely spot on Christopher

From speaking to the man himself he had falling out with Sinfield and hetherington, and as a result the players. Told a fair few some home truths. Told the board x y z need to go and we need new players was told no money to spend and the players had to stay. Few with noses out of place. Ironically when it was clear we were crap money was found. Granted it’s not an unbiased account I tend to believe it. Building a team on the cheap then forced to pay over the odds for desperation signings like Lui.

All ifs and maybes after round 1 you can tell it’s going to be a fruitless year again just need to improve and build hopefully.

Just one thing, you say Ryan Carr worked but then the next scentence say you don’t get the structure of part time having impact?

Ryan Carr was part time.

You may be correct in your last statement!

You can’t tell anything from round 1 at all, especially a game where we lost a centre and our captain for a huge chunk of the game and our first choice prop was missy, would you have thought saints would get nilled in their second game?

I do know that he challenged JJB after the Salford game about his attitude and putting on injuries, stating he needed to go, having challenged him the previous weeks. After that game Sinfield and GH were put in a position who they backed, and Furner went.

From that, middle of last season is when I stated on here that we won't appoint a proper coach, and will limp along for JJB to take over when qualified. Its a bit of a coincidence that seems to be happening.