It may take a season or two to sort the team out, it'll take a good bit longer to sort out the overbearing arrogance of some of your fans.

I am old enough to remember a team at the start of the 60s whos fans were also afflicted with overbearing arrogance

I thought we certainly raised our game but Leeds looked like they just needed to go through the motions. There was very little aggression and pride in defence. I think that was what struck me the most. Up the middle your defence is soft and the goal-line defence in the first half was embarrassing. That to me is an attitude thing. There seems to be a lack of leaders in the pack and at halfback who have the authority to stop the rot when it starts.

Looking at the stats in today’s League Express it seems you made plenty more metres, clean breaks, offloads and missed fewer tackles yet when it counted – on your own line and when you were attacking ours you were lacking. The discipline was also awful. Penalties for backchat are unforgivable and they let us off the hook.

You have some good players and some average ones. What is missing are leaders.

We've done quite a lot of humble pie eating since we ruled the roost so no, I guess we wouldn't.

As much as it's hurting quite a lot of you need to realise the Super 8's were binned because the top 5-6 Championship teams were getting closer and closer. Lots of super league nipsies were nipping like chuff.

You are in a rut but hopefully this should give you a massive wake up call, drop down here and it's a dog fight. If you think any championship team would give you an easy ride because you are Leeds you are mistaken and as you have seen a 'second rate', 'Team full of amateurs' championship side beat you, and there are better sides in this league who'd have massacred that cowardly shower you brought to Odsal.

Arrogance cost us dearly and ended in a trip to L1. Bradford, Leigh and Widnes imploded on relegation. With Hetherington your safe from that but you are not guaranteed to bounce. We had no divine right and neither do you.

Hope you sort it quickly because I want he next derby to be in SL not the Championship.

It really was. No joy in that situation from this Leeds fan.

And a lot of fat ones. What's really missing is a few salads.

SL have huge problems, its ok to have a salary cap and while the cap brings everyone down to the lowest denominator, it does not make the game any better, in fact this year the game is at its lowest point in terms of skill and quality. The teams with crowds of 3,000 and 4,000 have the same money to spend in terms of salary cap as the teams with crowds of over 10,000. Every team in SL get £2m as a cap, and just by coincidence Sky sponsorship is £2m per club. So teams with crap grounds and poor crowds can compete with the teams who are well supported. The game can only go backwards.
I was privy to a meeting where a CEO of a SL team who was talking about selling the SL franchise to a another owner and he wanted to move the team lock stock and barrel to Odsal. It never happened but some fans on here are fickle especially when they see the Rhinos struggling and they cannot wait to get their threepennth in. Trust me some people on here do not know how their clubs are surviving, so in the event of Sky pulling the plug a lot of teams will go to the wall. It time we stopped marketing the game in Canada, lets get back to marketing in our own country, We need Bradford in SL, we need a London team and SL need the Rhinos. so lets move on from this post, we cant turn the clock back so its time to move on to Thursday game. Good luck to Bradford it was a well deserved win and I wish you well in the next round.

Agree with most of that forget Canada ffs lets get Bradford,Halifax,Widnes and Leigh back in SL,chance of that?zero because has you rightly point out if It wasn,t for the Sky money most would go to the wall so they will never vote to expand the numbers!
Neither will they do away with the ridiculous Easter fixtures!

How'd that go?

Superb post

How come Myler Ablett and JJB didn't play Vs us Bulls?