I remember a few years ago when Callamillor Rhino invited me to a Catalans game, in the hotel afterwards he said something that's always stuck with me. "There's a lot of egos " he said. And if there's one thing I've learned over the years it's that egos bruise. And bruises hurt.

I think Kevin is learning this from the gamekeeper's side of the fence.

I saw a lot of bruises yesterday, and very few of them were from collisions ON the pitch.

The whole Sinfield as DOR was Hetherington appeasing the fans by bringing their darling back, a smoke screen while the team he assembled struggled, he is also a deflection of blame for Hetherington.

I still think the fans deserve more of an explanation of Furner's sacking. All the more so if on-field performances continue to be poor.

Yes, results weren't great, but since GH's arrival Leeds have usually been patient with coaching appointments. Was Furner really worse than Dean Lance, for example?

It's not good enough to say 'we know what the problems are, and know how to fix them 100%, but we aren't going to tell you'. And it's also not good enough to expect the fans to be patient when the management are behaving impatiently in all manner of ways.

This is exactly true. The right man for the job, but not the right time when it happened.

2015 we won the treble and three top players .leaders left and following year were were in a relegation season we were told the usual reasons etc for that bad season . 2017 we finished second by a long way and won a one off game which happened to be a the Grand final , then a few more players left ,leaders as well . The management just hoped for the best and this is where we are. By the way what was the purpose of GFs annual trips the Australia ?

Scouring the bartercard cup for bargains?

Fwiw, not everyone who left was a leader, but a good number were and I don't think their replacements have either been signed or worked out very well