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| Quote Exeter Rhino="Exeter Rhino"Gotcha is right that a lot of the penalties given away through Ferres' indiscipline do often seem to be more costly than those made by others. I'm sympathetic to Marty's idea that Ferres often makes a solid contribution compared to others in the team, but a lot of this is undone by his poor discipline. Someone like JJB has consistently given penalties away throughout his career, but that's mainly because of things like fatigue and playing the game to the limit. With Ferres you get the sense that he's often more interested in niggle than getting the job done. Ryan Bailey was a master of winding up opposition players and winning penalties (also Ablett, to a lesser degree), but too often Ferres plays dumb. It's a huge shame because he's clearly sorted his weight out in the off-season, and if he just plays to the best of his abilities and ditches the naughty stuff we might see more of what the coaching staff see in him at training etc.'"
With you on the Ferres always wanting to niggle.
My biggest downer however with him is that we spent and continue to spend an awful lot of money on someone who was supposed to be an international quality player. Since arriving at leeds he has been at best an average player and I believe his work ethic and attitude is poor. |
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| Quote Norton123="Norton123"With you on the Ferres always wanting to niggle.
My biggest downer however with him is that we spent and continue to spend an awful lot of money on someone who was supposed to be an international quality player. Since arriving at leeds he has been at best an average player and I believe his work ethic and attitude is poor.'"
That's exactly it with Ferres. It's a value for money arguement. We signed an international player, and have not once in 4(?) seasons seen one single performance from him that looks anything close to international class.
Yes, the squad to me looks very week in the pack. Players like Singelton for me are no where near good enough, but Ferres probably earns double what most of the average players earn, so he gets twice the stick. |
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| Quote Norton123="Norton123"With you on the Ferres always wanting to niggle. '"
With Ferres I don't think it is niggle. There is a selfishness & arrogance that he just cannot keep in check. Not only does that manifest itself in penalties (& in his private life) but during his Cas career a number of tries if he had given out the simple ball rather than go for the glory. |
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Can everyone be wrong? Ferres gives stupid penalties away that are invariably costly, he's not worth the salary cap he takes up (not on his own there Crosby and Abblett and Tui) Let's just get rid!
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Can everyone be wrong? Ferres gives stupid penalties away that are invariably costly, he's not worth the salary cap he takes up (not on his own there Crosby and Abblett and Tui) Let's just get rid!
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With the squad we have available I’d go with:
Walker
Briscoe
Watkins
Newman
Handley
Sutcliffe
Myler
Cuthbertson
Dwyer
Singleton
Trout
Smith
Merrin
Oledzki
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McLelland and Lolohea to miss out
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From the 19 I think Mclelland will miss out and I think Smith will as well as I don't think he is near enough 100% fit and I think it would be stupid to risk him and make his injury worse when we already have some many bodies missing in the pack so I think it'll be
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Briscoe
Watkins
Newman
Handley
Lolohea
Myler
Oldezki
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Merrin
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| That`s probably not a bad call JR.
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| Quote chapylad="chapylad"That`s probably not a bad call JR.
Why oh why does JJB get a slot?
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Just like Briscoe, it's in his contract, if fit he plays. Only a guess |
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| Quote Jrrhino="Jrrhino"From the 19 I think Mclelland will miss out and I think Smith will as well as I don't think he is near enough 100% fit and I think it would be stupid to risk him and make his injury worse when we already have some many bodies missing in the pack so I think it'll be
Walker
Briscoe
Watkins
Newman
Handley
Lolohea
Myler
Oldezki
Dwyer
Cuthbertson
Trout
Sutcliffe
Merrin
Subs
Parcell
Singleton
JJB
Donaldson'"
This or Sutty 6 with Tui on bench with Sutty going second row later. |
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The problem with the likes of JJB in the squad is that Furner - like most coaches to be fair - will almost always opt for experience. Its the coach's safety blanket. Just like with a toddler the only thing to do to stop them using it is take it away.
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