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Will everyone please calm down please? This whole rebuilding exercise (on and off the pitch) is going to take several years. We have recently had the greatest period in the club's history (I remember the 1980s and 1990s). Things go in cycles. We follow a great club, we have positive management, we have a ground to be proud of, we have a very good set of youngsters (some of whom will make it, some won't). Thinking about the 1980s, some of the big tussles were with Widnes; be careful what you wish for. An instant return to the 'top table' is not going to happen.

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Quote: vastman "I know what happened but Leeds his own team do it just as much as any other team and he should know that by now - as for the decosion you win some you lose some - so again why so angry about such a common occurance, seemed a ludicrous over reaction to me.'"


I’m not disputing that Leeds do it too. Frustration boiled over, he handled it wrong. I would imagine that he will learn from it.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Id switch Tui & Myler & put Cam Smith as Right side BR.
I also think its time we started blooding Trout & once settled in Sam Walters.
The current incumbents have had numerous chances time for some changes.
I will also add the squad cull needs to run deeper for 2020.'"

Agree with having a look at Trout and maybe Walters. Ideally we get a couple of “W”s on the board first because bringing young lads into a struggling side isn’t great.
I still don’t know whether Walters comes to us properly, or whether he’s loaned back to Widnes?
Another wildcard is Mustapha, that lad can defend and puts himself about.
Be interesting again to see Furner’s selection for Hull.

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Funnily enough if Tui had kicked his conversions and the obstruction try was given we might have only lost by a converted try.
I know plenty of if`s in there but as bad as we were and as good as Wakefield were we weren`t that far off.
And yes I`m trying to go for the glass half full approach here.
in fact not really sure why I`m posting this we would still have lost icon_confused.gif

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Quote: chapylad "Funnily enough if Tui had kicked his conversions and the obstruction try was given we might have only lost by a converted try.
I know plenty of if`s in there but as bad as we were and as good as Wakefield were we weren`t that far off.
And yes I`m trying to go for the glass half full approach here.
in fact not really sure why I`m posting this we would still have lost
You were really - but I get the point though Wakefield would argue that if they had done this and that you wouldn't have been able, its all conjecture really. On the night and lets be realistic its just one game Wakefield were miles better - who knows what things will be like come August/September time when it really matters.

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Leeds weren't quite as bad as some are making out, and Wakefield were probably better. The result is always a relative thing, and Wakefield played very well, they were sharp, clinical on the whole, and exploited our weaknesses really well.

Merrin got a bit of a clout in the chops during the tackle I think, which probably made him mad. That doesn't excuse giving up a penalty in possession however, as our new vaunted "pack leader".

I actually thought Leeds were close to getting pinged a couple of times for holding down in the tackle actually, we were messing about a bit in an effort to stop Wakefield's momentum, and because we'd lost the energy battle yet again.

I'm not a fan of ifs and buts in games: every moment and decision effects the rest of the game and changes its course, it is impossible to predict what else would have happened had one key moment been different. I thought the scoreline flattered Leeds a little at the weekend but, as in all games, both sides missed some opportunities.

Part of the reason we're on the wrong end of some decisions is a) just because we're losing and people are looking for things to blame and b) because we're not on top in games, we're losing the weight of possession and it's more likely you'll get pinged in D then in attack - unless you're Trent Merrin.

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