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| Course the number is relevant, because its about how exclusive or otherwise you want a list to be. That's the whole point. YOUR view is that he should be in and therefore have a longer list, others think the term 'legend' should be mega-exclusive to maybe 5 players. Nobody is actually right or wrong because there's no agreed definition.
If you were to ask me (which you didn't) I'd say the 5 most important players in the club's history (in no particular order) would be Lewis Jones, Joe Thompson, Eric Harris, John Holmes and Kevin Sinfield. Each of those players dominated an era for the club and won things.
If you would put JJB ahead of them then that's your view and you're entitled to it, but to me he wouldn't be in the top 20 players in the history of the club (which predates SL by more than 100 years). He would maybe be in my top 50, but I probably wouldn't call top 50 'legends'.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Great club servant - who made a valuable contribution to the glory years - a legend not on the field - very similar to Nathan Massey for me a good solid performer who gave it 100% every time he took the field.
Legend should be reserved for players of exceptional ability whose quality sets them apart from their peer group e.g. Danny McGuire.'"
Some of that i agree but JJB was a 20 year club man who was a mainstay of that period. Larger than life character who will long be remembered and talked about in 20/30/40 years time so i would say he is a club legend. All time great on the other hand; no.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "Some of that i agree but JJB was a 20 year club man who was a mainstay of that period. Larger than life character who will long be remembered and talked about in 20/30/40 years time so i would say he is a club legend. All time great on the other hand; no.'"
Will he be remembered as a lager than life character or as a really top player? Comparisons to the likes of Morley, Ellis & Ali do him no favours in quality terms. When it comes to effort and endeavour - unmatched.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Will he be remembered as a lager than life character or as a really top player? Comparisons to the likes of Morley, Ellis & Ali do him no favours in quality terms. When it comes to effort and endeavour - unmatched.'"
Both. He was a top player, international squad standard between 05-11 and he was consistently a 7/10 player. A level below the 3 you mentioned who were world class but i still think his longevity, success and complete devotion to the club merit the label of club legend but i appreciate it's opinions.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "Both. He was a top player, international squad standard between 05-11 and he was consistently a 7/10 player. A level below the 3 you mentioned who were world class but i still think his longevity, success and complete devotion to the club merit the label of club legend but i appreciate it's opinions.'"
Fair assessment
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| For me, JJB came into his own in the 2007 season, and really stood out as an attacking player that year and for the next two years or so, to the point that he was outshining the likes of Lauitiiti in a lot of performances. After that IIRC he became more of a workhorse (and occasional penalty machine). 2007 was also the year when JJB grew the beard, and Jamie Thackray was famously axed because he wouldn't work on his poor ball-retention in training.
Another season that sticks out is 2006 - another underachieving year, despite Peacock signing. JJB was played at prop in some games by Tony Smith and didn't really make an impact.
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