I think Toronto will be in the million pound game. I can't see them finishing higher than Leeds, hull kr or Salford. Widnes are the weakest but I still think they will have too much for Toronto. Toulouse and London have improved but still not ready.
I'd love to see Toronto in Super League but not sure they'll manage. I bet they are glad they don't have Leeds at home because for me they need to be winning their home games and that is a game they wouldn't win.

Early wins in the M8s are vital. Even just winning the first two takes a lot of pressure off the later fixtures. Whilst I don't want the CC to be a distraction, IMO we really need to put ina good performance vs Wire to give confidence going into these games. Last time we went in flying - we'd just beaten Hull, Wigan and KR (coinciding with Segeyaro arriving) before we played our first M8 game. This year we have no momentum at all, and haven't played really well since Sts. That doesn't mean we won't survive, but IMO we are relying on other teams being really poor rather than us actually being any good.

If Leeds can't beat the likes of Halifax, Toulouse, Toronto and Widnes something is very seriously wrong and they deserve what's coming. Personally unless they get a host of injuries I can't see them losing a game - let's face it Hull KR are no great shakes and they are the next best team.

We just beat KR 20-18 when Watkins was still fit. They've won more games than us since then and have strengthened - we've only beaten Widnes since. Only a couple of months ago we were supposed to easily beat Cats and Hudds and cruise into the 8s, then it was revised to us easily beating Wakefield, Widnes and Salford. We're either a LOT worse than some people want to admit or the squad has a major attitude problem.

A month ago they were unlucky to lose to Saints - on that form they will waltz through this - it depends which team turns up I suppose.

I only hope for your team's sake that the players do not have your attitude. If they do you will get stuffed.

To be fair Leeds are quite a way off top 8 superleague standard going on the last 2 months.
I think you will be fine but you need to hope the players are not thinking like some of the posters on here. You could well come unstuck.

true if they thought like some posters on here they'd probably just give up as they'd think they have no talent whatsoever

If the players turn up for any game thinking they can’t win then they really will have a problem.

There is a great difference between thinking you can win and not respecting the opposition.

You say "let's face it Hull KR are no great shakes and they are the next best team." Since we lost to you by two points, with a depleted side,we have beaten Wigan, lost to Cas, drawn away at Cas, heavily defeated Salford and Huddersfield, (the only team to beat Hudds since they started on their run, won away at Widnes, lost to Wires and beaten FC away.

During that time Rhinos have beaten Widnes. On current form we are the next best team to Rhinos?

As I said I hope the team to not share your view of the situation. On second thoughts yes I do.

I hate these 8s as we’ve been in them every year the first year we cruised through with 7/7 and had a Wembley final in the middle (least said about that the better) then we lost the million pound game in dramatic fashion then won our first 5 games as a championship club to go up last year so although we’ve ran into a bit of form I’m still nervous about them