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[b:3v5chy3z]Brian McDermott paraphrased Peter Fox.
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| Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Cam Smith has never looked sensational in any 19s game I saw. He's been disappointing in truth.'"
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Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: Gotcha "Not sure what measurement you are basing that on?
Both Roberts and Smith were a million miles ahead of Bentley at under 16 level. That was no bigger size than you, bully boy, measurement, they were simply miles better skill wise.
Bently's development at the bulls was first class, regardless what people think the same can not be said with the other two. However, they have been unfortunate with the injuries incurred as a result of the development placed on them.
Smith hasn't kicked on, and to me should have left Leeds whilst he was still young enough, and he would definitely get hsi career back on track. He hasn't lost the skills, he was a wonderful player, and you don't just lose that, it just needs displaying in the right environment.
Roberts though, IMO is still way above Bentley. Bentley is a great lad, and offers a great degree of flexibility in the positions he can fulfill. Honestly though, Roberts given a role can really stand out in this league.'"
The problem with Smith is he probably still has the skills he just cannot execute them at the pace he needs to to be competitive at the elite level. He looks disinterested at Leeds - and needs a fresh environment. | | |
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| Quote: Gotcha "No, and he never was. Not sure where the myth comes from, but I guess it is people who never saw him play as a junior. He was a big lad, no doubt, but no where near the size of many of his age group. He was a dedicated lad to to what he wanted to achieve, and put plenty time in the gym yes, but it was his skill level over the other players that made him stand out. He was the main ball player, the pivot, the organizer, of his junior team, not the bash it up and make yards player.
At Leeds, despite having that same pivot role in the under 16's, where again he stood out, they have tried to change him into a prop, and did it too early in his career. That is where his problems have stemmed from, and injuries. He isn't been asked to play his natural game, but instead a new entire role, that limits his major assets of skills. It hasn't worked, or at least it seems that way since he hasn't exactly excelled with this programme, but it seems to be lets persist with it. I think the club know he is too damn good to write off and let go, but at the same time I think two parties have to face reality with each other.'"
Are you saying they have literally tried to make him a prop or just been bulking him up? It can be hard to adjust to a change in size/body for young rugby and particularly football players. That and bad injuries means he should be cut a bit of slack for mine. He is still 19 and I don't see many 19 year old forwards ripping up SL. | | |
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| Quote: Mark Laurie "Are you saying they have literally tried to make him a prop or just been bulking him up? It can be hard to adjust to a change in size/body for young rugby and particularly football players. That and bad injuries means he should be cut a bit of slack for mine. He is still 19 and I don't see many 19 year old forwards ripping up SL.'"
Both. But they cut back on the bulking I believe when the injuries were persisting. | | | |
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| Quote: Gotcha "No, and he never was. Not sure where the myth comes from, but I guess it is people who never saw him play as a junior. He was a big lad, no doubt, but no where near the size of many of his age group. He was a dedicated lad to to what he wanted to achieve, and put plenty time in the gym yes, but it was his skill level over the other players that made him stand out. He was the main ball player, the pivot, the organizer, of his junior team, not the bash it up and make yards player.
At Leeds, despite having that same pivot role in the under 16's, where again he stood out, they have tried to change him into a prop, and did it too early in his career. That is where his problems have stemmed from, and injuries. He isn't been asked to play his natural game, but instead a new entire role, that limits his major assets of skills. It hasn't worked, or at least it seems that way since he hasn't exactly excelled with this programme, but it seems to be lets persist with it. I think the club know he is too damn good to write off and let go, but at the same time I think two parties have to face reality with each other.'"
When did they try to make him a prop exactly?? He's always played BR or on the odd occasion at 6? | | |
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| Quote: Gotcha "Both. But they cut back on the bulking I believe when the injuries were persisting.'"
Regardless of anything else He looks too short to be suited to be a modern prop. Hope he can stay injury free and maybe show some of the quality in the championship later in the season | | | |
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