dwyer is passed fit to play but garbutt is out tonight and ormondroyd is in the 17

Disappointing start from HKR. Hopefully we avoid any complacency or one eye on Melbourne and get the job done against them at Elland Road. Going to and back from Australia with 4 points from 4 safely under our belts will arguably only help as we aren't worrying about a slow League start.

Me neither although I do recall him being run down by Gareth Ellis from what looked a potential scoring position in last year's play offs. That might have been down to the angle from which I was watching though I was still surprised to see him caught.

If a starting winger goes down injured for a while would be interesting to see if they kept Handley as backup or gave Golding a shot there. Keinhorst I think has turned into a very good centre after plenty of initial criticism when he made the team in 2012. He could be a starting centre for a lot of teams in SL (hell even at favourites Saints I'd have him over Ryan Morgan) so wouldn't begrudge him moving on next year if he can't get a game. Shame as you know if Watkins or Sutcliffe get injured we have a good replacement but won't want to be backup forever. In a Salary cap sport it's great to have those level of backups for a while but realistically they'll want to move on after a while.

I watched Jack in 16s and 19s where he scored plenty of long range tries. I wouldn't say he has blistering pace but is certainly quick enough.

It's amazing how he has grown in last 12 months tho and as his body gets stronger with all the weight training it's to hope he doesn't lose any speed

He's one of them players like Iestyn Harris that always seems to have time when in possession and he has great footwork. For his age the kid is some talent.

Spot on - whilst it's nice to see them wallow in misery, if you replace Powell/Roberts/Gale with McDermott/Golding/McGuire they're exactly where we were this time last year, dodgy hair transplant notwithstanding...

Not that they've got a fraction of the character our lads have.