Firstly, having witnessed how emotional he was after the game, no-one could possibly doubt how much he cares about the club, the players and achieving the overall collective goal. In my opinion, the more you care, the more successful you will be.

I am not his greatest fan as a coach but I have never seen the need to attack him personally and to vilify him. To those that have, shame on you, because he is clearly a genuinely decent person.

The results over the last few years have been at best inconsistent and, at worst, woeful. Furthermore, given the players he has had at his disposal, the number of truly convincing performances achieved during his tenure has been disappointing. However, you cannot argue with results and he has achieved in that department.

It's not semantics, your point still stands - as crap.

Eden - journeyman - Hudds, HKR, Salford (Gateshead?), Broncos
Shenton - released a year early by Saints
Gale - ditched by Leeds, playing Championship for Bradford
Webster - injury prone & virtually finished

You could add McShane & Cook to the list of those surplus to requirements at any decent SL club as well as a number of the unknowns who Powell has made into top players.

Wait... What?

Apart from I said how good DP had done and how much better Cas are than the sum of their parts. Partly it's down to how tightly structured their game is, they're able to swap players in and out but still have them know their role. Hence I don't see Zak as that much of a loss to them (at least in attack, they'll miss him in defence especially if we manage to get our kicking game going).

My point was, and remains, that those 4 players are a rubbish example.

Fact is shenton was an England international, Gale had been outstanding in a poor Bradford side. Eden's only 26 now, hardly a journeyman...he chamced his arm aged 23 at one of the biggest teams in the NRL. Webster I'll concede looked to be on his way out a couple of seasons ago,tho he has always been a solid player.

Meh. You don't know how close I was to including Zak in the list of players Powell had rescued from oblivion...

Temporarily.