I could say that the problem was down to the wrong grass but it is an unlikely scenario.

Largely different players, same coach and similar performances. Now, let me see, where would look to put things right?

When we played Hull at home a few weeks ago, we only managed to win because they were so appalling bad themselves. Wake up and smell what you are shovelling.

At the start of the year McDermott said we were aiming for the treble. After the cas thrashing he said we could still win the grand final. He was derided for both, but is that not aiming high and believing in your own ability?

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

I believe the person you quoted said "team". He said nothing about individual people.

So 2 of three objectives have gone out of the window - so does that suggest the start of the year objectives were unrealistic?

Surely the objective of any season is for the team to play to its potential and if that delivers success that's great if not so be it.

Fans surely cannot ask anymore - Leeds have only played to their true potential once this season IMO - Warrington at home - that suggests the coaching staff have plenty of scope for improvement

I suspect you didn't attend the game at Salford. From my viewpoint that performance was better than the one against Warrington.

I didn't I was on vacation