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Great effort tonight against all the odds . Thought Garbutt, Hall , Parcell & Cuthbo were superb.Walker is a star of the furture. Hull are limited in attack , but they are a massive side - their wingers are built like props , but to take them with only 2 forwards on the bench was a massive effort. For the semi , we need to bomb the s**t out of Shaull - he is a definite weakness.

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I don't necessarily have a problem with not using a back if they're picked on the bench. I do have a problem with picking then not using a forward.

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Quote: leedsnsouths "If it is archaic thinking then why is it so rare for other coaches to not use a sub on either side of the equator? I would actually say not using your interchanges properly is the true act of a dinosaur as it shows a lack of understanding for how fast and energy sapping the game has become.

Macs poor use of interchanges has cost us in many games in the past, the one that sticks most strongly in my mind was 2015 against Cas where we only used one sub for the first 50 mins and the Cas halves managed to tear our middle unit to shreds at the start of the second half until 2 of the other subs were put on, but by then the game was already lost.

They are very nice stats but if Mac just wanted pace then why not start Walker and move Ward to the second row?
I know that the injuries meant the subs proved useful, but by the end of the game Hull were easily getting down field as our forwards tired, and with better finishing they would have converted this field position into points, so only 2 forward subs was not a masterstroke.

Having said that I do have to credit Mac with instilling some pride back in our defence after last year.'"


Other coaches have other squads and have prepared their game plans to suit their players or prepared their players to suit the game plan. I too do not always understand Mac' use of subs either but often circumstances in a game mean that your pre match plan of timing for substitutions goes out of the window and you have to decide which 13 offer the best chance of a win.

I am not a fan of players being prepared to just put in short spells. It is generally the case that props only play in shorter spells by there are exception like JP for instance. In a tight game would you choose to bring on Walters or keep the likes of JP, JJB and Ablett out there? On other occasions you have a young player on the bench that you wanted to give 10 minutes to but the way the opposition are playing makes this too risky. Other coaches also sometimes do not use all their bench.

BM's record suggests he gets things right for most of the time

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most of the time is spot on.
which is exactly what I put. thanks for agreeing.
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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Other coaches have other squads and have prepared their game plans to suit their players or prepared their players to suit the game plan. I too do not always understand Mac' use of subs either but often circumstances in a game mean that your pre match plan of timing for substitutions goes out of the window and you have to decide which 13 offer the best chance of a win.

I am not a fan of players being prepared to just put in short spells. It is generally the case that props only play in shorter spells by there are exception like JP for instance. In a tight game would you choose to bring on Walters or keep the likes of JP, JJB and Ablett out there? On other occasions you have a young player on the bench that you wanted to give 10 minutes to but the way the opposition are playing makes this too risky. Other coaches also sometimes do not use all their bench.

BM's record suggests he gets things right for most of the time'"


I take your point but you could put your worst player on for say 10 mins at the 50 min mark and then have your best team on the park for the final quarter.

If Mac doesnt trust a player to play 10-20 mins in a league game then they shoudnt be in the 25 man squad

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Its generally more preset than that, in the NRL at least. Players rotate at predetermined times in the game to try to ensure that the best players are on the field at the most important times in the game (e.g. last ten minutes). The only reason they don't in normal league games is due to injury, not the scoreline. The reason for this is quite simple - the coaches know how long players can play before their performance starts to fall off, and that not rotating them would be worse than having a weaker player on the field for ten minutes.

This can obviously get thrown about by injuries, but I can't remember seeing a bench forward not used in the NRL. I genuinely do not understand picking a forward on the bench and not using them at all.

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