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| Quote rodhutch="rodhutch":1i21pc05Tell you what you win the cup we win the lls shield then we will meet in the grand final as the decider'" :1i21pc05
Sounds a good plan to me.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"i would agree in the final. But history tells us not the case in the Semi, and not the oppossition we have this time. But that is still only one match.'"
You forgetting about some of those semis vs Saints? 2003, 2010, 2015? Wigan in 2012 weeks after they put50 on us in the league? Finally getting past Bradford in 99?
And what's wrong with the opppsition this time? Current cup holders, looking extremely confident in this competition after winning it last year beating their nearest league rivals in the semis and final and having just dismissed the form team of this year?
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"You forgetting about some of those semis vs Saints? 2003, 2010, 2015? Wigan in 2012 weeks after they put50 on us in the league? Finally getting past Bradford in 99?
And what's wrong with the opppsition this time? Current cup holders, looking extremely confident in this competition after winning it last year beating their nearest league rivals in the semis and final and having just dismissed the form team of this year?'"
Not forgetting at all the prior 2013, and had we got Wigan this time I think we woudl have had to raise much more. But the teams now compared to then are simply not the same, and play anything like they did just a few years ago. Hull are a poor side, they are where they are because of the oppossition out there, rather than been a good side. We are exactly the same. That dosn't make either team a comparison to those other years you mention.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Hull are a poor side, they are where they are because of the oppossition out there, rather than been a good side. '"
Opposition like Cas, you mean?
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Challenge cup is a poor achievement in comparison. You only have to look at this year for that, with the draw we have had. Can anyone honestly say if Leeds won it this year it is a better achievement than a club like Cas finishing top of league? That would be some barrell scraping.'"
Yes of course winning the cup is better than winning the LLS!
That is why in 2015 we kicked a penalty to tie the game against Huddersfield, because guaranteeing a home semi final was more important than risking it for the LLS
Also in 2014 we basically threw away the LLS to focus on the CC
Many sports have a playoff system and in the majority of these you dont even get anything for finishing top
Also you cant say that the top of the league means much when we have an arbitrary fixture in the magic weekend and then play some teams twice at home, some twice away and some neither
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| Quote leedsnsouths="leedsnsouths"Yes of course winning the cup is better than winning the LLS!
That is why in 2015 we kicked a penalty to tie the game against Huddersfield, because guaranteeing a home semi final was more important than risking it for the LLS
Also in 2014 we basically threw away the LLS to focus on the CC
Many sports have a playoff system and in the majority of these you dont even get anything for finishing top
Also you cant say that the top of the league means much when we have an arbitrary fixture in the magic weekend and then play some teams twice at home, some twice away and some neither'"
Whooosshhhhhhh.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Whooosshhhhhhh.'"
Sorry what have I missed?
No matter what size your club, how can the LLS mean anything when there are a bunch of arbitrary fixtures and many teams rest players because of the CC?
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Hull are a poor side, they are where they are because of the oppossition out there, rather than been a good side. '"
Hull have a team of great individual players but are poorly coached. They rarely put together great flowing moves of expansive rugby but can hammer teams one on one.
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| Quote leedsnsouths="leedsnsouths"Sorry what have I missed?
No matter what size your club, how can the LLS mean anything when there are a bunch of arbitrary fixtures and many teams rest players because of the CC?'"
What have you understood is more apt?
How clear can the statements be? A big club playing five games with three against lower league oppossition, is not as good an achievement as a smaller club consistently performing to top the league after 29 rounds. What a club like Leeds back in 2015 have to do with that point I am unsure of. You appear be trying to argue another point, one that has been done to death many times, but one that is not relevent to what is said this time.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"Hull have a team of great individual players but are poorly coached. They rarely put together great flowing moves of expansive rugby but can hammer teams one on one.'"
And that same poorly coached team, would have been a bottom four team prior to 2014, against the teams around then.
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