I could see why to Cas especially this year finishing top would mean a lot and be a vindication of how far they have come but in general. It would be interesting to hear what the Cas fans would value higher a first CC win at Wembley since 1986 or the LLS?'"

Tell you what you win the cup we win the lls shield then we will meet in the grand final as the decider'"

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Sounds a good plan to me.

See you at OT

Not forgetting at all the prior 2013, and had we got Wigan this time I think we woudl have had to raise much more. But the teams now compared to then are simply not the same, and play anything like they did just a few years ago. Hull are a poor side, they are where they are because of the oppossition out there, rather than been a good side. We are exactly the same. That dosn't make either team a comparison to those other years you mention.

Opposition like Cas, you mean?

Yes of course winning the cup is better than winning the LLS!

That is why in 2015 we kicked a penalty to tie the game against Huddersfield, because guaranteeing a home semi final was more important than risking it for the LLS

Also in 2014 we basically threw away the LLS to focus on the CC

Many sports have a playoff system and in the majority of these you dont even get anything for finishing top

Also you cant say that the top of the league means much when we have an arbitrary fixture in the magic weekend and then play some teams twice at home, some twice away and some neither

Whooosshhhhhhh.

Sorry what have I missed?

No matter what size your club, how can the LLS mean anything when there are a bunch of arbitrary fixtures and many teams rest players because of the CC?

Hull have a team of great individual players but are poorly coached. They rarely put together great flowing moves of expansive rugby but can hammer teams one on one.