It seems some people are encouraged by that performance and I find that slightly worrying. Cas blew us away after half time and it was job done for them with about 20 minutes left. You could argue we had a few missing but are we ever at full strength these days? Seem to always have 3 or 4 missing so I'm hesitant to use that excuse.

he never has stinkers though, never shirks or hides. a good sl prop for me

Agreed.i like him, no pack leader but certainly a good squad rotation front rower every squad needs.far and away above the likes of Mullally anyway.

Good engine, decent hands a bit of mongrel......hope he can develop into THE starting prop.

Think being an academy product rather than someone brought in helps not getting as much criticism. His metres made and metres per carry is very poor and well behind the other starting props, only McGuire and Golding are making less metres per carry in the whole squad. His defence is ok but nowhere near as good as some would say and I don't really does hurt people when he sticks to legal tackles. His carries and metres made on Sunday really aren't good enough for a starting prop.

Is this like a charity auction where you go on a date?