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As much as I think Lilley might deserve a chance at some point, for me it shouldn't be alongside McGuire. We need some pace in the halves be it from Moon or Burrow-I don't want to see Burrow as anything but a back up half / interchange hooker though really. The emergence of Keinhorst has allowed Mac to experiment with Moon and I think he compliments Maggs perfectly. The only thing really lacking is a credible kicking game.

Maguire has arguably possessed all the skills to be a world class half throughout his career, just not all at the same time. Having said that he's been a very very good player for 15 plus years and that is testament to the word he has put in developing and evolving his game.

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Disagree RE Ferres, if he can maintain the workrate and agility needed to defend as a second rower with added size, which he seems to have done, then I can only see benefits to him staying as a wide-running second rower'"


Agree with this, we haven't had an off loading lump punching holes on the fringes since Ali and it has been something we have missed. If Ferres can become this for us that would add a nice dimension. Be good to see him get a run of games for us, then we can judge him properly.

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I haven't seen anything from Ferres in 18months that should guarantee him a place in the first 17 never mind comparisons with Ali. Too many dumb decisions, too many penalties, in and out of the squad with injuries and suspensions.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "I haven't seen anything from Ferres in 18months that should guarantee him a place in the first 17 never mind comparisons with Ali. Too many dumb decisions, too many penalties, in and out of the squad with injuries and suspensions.'"


Difficult to judge from our awful 2016 though in which he was in and out of the side. I wasn't comparing him to Ali, just pointing out that is the kind of player we miss and if Ferres can bring that in time then great for us, but all to prove.

Again, lets judge when he strings a number of games together, he is still working his way back from injury, although i agree that silly suspensions will not help the cause.

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Quote: leedsnsouths "... then I can only see benefits to him staying as a wide-running second rower'"


Or even as a wide, running second rower.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Agree with this, we haven't had an off loading lump punching holes on the fringes since Ali and it has been something we have missed. If Ferres can become this for us that would add a nice dimension. Be good to see him get a run of games for us, then we can judge him properly.'"

Ferres hasn't shown anything that resembles the impact Ali had but by switching him to interchange Prop he now has the size to match the impact Garbutt has and take some of the workload off the other front rowers which imo will be more effective v the bigger packs.
Of course all of this is just an opinion the first thing BF needs to sort is his discipline.

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