Hey as we have discussed plenty the last four years have been the least productive in terms of GF appearances since 2004 - you may call that progress and you are entitled to that view. I would say that is fact and I am right but again I am sure you will have a counter argument as why the "Moon is indeed flat"

So now we have a recognised hooker are you prepared to take a bet that Leeds will finish inside the top 4 or do you have another caveat that you need put in just to increase your chances?

Love being called smug on a Leeds board, by Leeds fans, for celebrating Leeds success.

<edit>But to answer your question, no there wasn't. We had a terrible season but anyone with even half a brain knew why it had happened and were pretty confident of turning things around in 2017. We didn't call for the coach, captain, chief exec and various players' heads then predict the club to finish in the bottom 4 again.

A few??? That's optimistic to think it'll take that long

He's told blatent lies plenty of times about potential signings,briscoe being one of the more recent ones. I dont mind it,he's a character. We'r lucky to have him.