Although I wouldn't say he's fantastic, I find a lot of the criticism harsh, we may well look at our league positions over the McDermott years and say we'be been poor, yet I'm sure every teams fans would have still loved to have swapped places with us given our achievements despite those league finishes.

I'll also highlight that in 2015 he 'led' a team that the majority on here could see us struggling to top 4 given the lack of signings that off season and how we ended 2014 to a treble, so he can't be all bad, yes maybe it was a freak year and maybe the players were dragged through by retiring key personnel, but you can't say 100% none of that success was down to him. I guess my overall point is, I don't think he's been given the resource to succeed over the last couple of years.

Like Biff said, for some that is true but to paint all players with that brush is clearly wrong and we've had enough examples in our squad in recent times who prove that.

The major consequence of playing Senior was that it made the injury worse and we lost him for the rest of the season. We should still have won that game, bt Hull decided to play really well (how dare they!) and Calderwood made that last minute fumble. Had he dropped on, what was a very poor kick, it was game over. But he fumbled. Senior had nothing to do with that or with Bai's c**k up earlier in the match.

Big difference between playing hurt players, and playing players who are at risk of permanently damaging their bodies. Sutcliffe clearly was medically fit to play so the question is more on the lines of should the coach protect a younger player more and not throw him in before he is ready.

However there have been far too many examples of Mac playing players when there is a risk, McGuire this season being the most recent example. He should protect his players more.

DHM - my point was the injury itself. Senior was crocked for the rest of the year. Had it been Willie Poching for example, the risk wouldn't have been taken at all.

Niggly injuries are the concern,sprains and pulls go away.Somewhere along the lines you have to decide,can we nurse the player to close season (operation to fix),or write his season off now...

You decide...