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People were calling for McDermott's head mid season, and after overseeing one of the worst seasons in living memory it's not hard to see why. That said,Whatever you think of him, as far as silverware alone goes he has to be commended for the job he has done up until the end of 2015. At this point, imo at least, he should have walked away having achieved everything he could with the club and with his stock as high as it would ever likely be. Losing his right arm (Sinfield and Peacock) he should have seen the writing on the wall but decided to continue anyway which of course was his right.

Now, i also get GH backing him up to a certain point. money in the bank and all that. But there still was a point just before Segeyaro arrived when he looked like he had lost the dressing room...we were getting humiliated in a fair few games and he just looked like he wanted to go judging by his increasingly bizarre post game interviews. That was probably the point at which he should have been removed but he wasn't and saw the season out. A lot of the turn around was due to the arrival of Segeyaro, and with him all but confirming he won't be back we are back with pretty much the same squad that was getting mullered by 40 and 50 points mid season again. Granted, we will have a few players back in the fold that were missing for large chunks but the spine will be very similar as things stand and it's hard to imagine too much of a different game plan than we incorporated for much of that woeful first few months, especially if it's back to Burrow at 9 as is pretty likely.

All this taken into consideration it's hard to see us really pushing for a play off spot and if we are completely honest our squad as it stands (taking Segeyaro out) is not as good as Wigan, Cas, Hull and Warrington at least. You could possibly throw Saints in too but we'll have to see there. So if we finish below the play offs how will this sit with the fans, or more importantly GH? if we start slow and it looks like possible middle 8's again when does he pull the trigger?

Personally, i could handle middle of the table but want to see far better rugby being played, this year was total dross. Thoughts?

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: Sal Paradise "To players this is a job - nothing more'"


Like Biff said, for some that is true but to paint all players with that brush is clearly wrong and we've had enough examples in our squad in recent times who prove that.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Not always true. Sometimes risks are taken that simply wouldn't in other games with other players - particular WRT big name players in big games. Most of the time we don't really hear about it, but sometimes we do and it can backfire spectacularly (Senior in the CC final springs to mid).'"



The major consequence of playing Senior was that it made the injury worse and we lost him for the rest of the season. We should still have won that game, bt Hull decided to play really well (how dare they!) and Calderwood made that last minute fumble. Had he dropped on, what was a very poor kick, it was game over. But he fumbled. Senior had nothing to do with that or with Bai's c**k up earlier in the match.

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Quote: ThePrinter "The moral high ground of not picking players or players putting their hand up to play if they need a jab sounds all well and good AND easy when it's not your job and you aren't judge don't based on results so anybody saying they've wouldn't do it I take with a pinch of salt. Very easy to forget that 3rd game in was the WCC and if he wanted to play him in that big game they might've felt he'd be better having some SL action before.'"


Big difference between playing hurt players, and playing players who are at risk of permanently damaging their bodies. Sutcliffe clearly was medically fit to play so the question is more on the lines of should the coach protect a younger player more and not throw him in before he is ready.

However there have been far too many examples of Mac playing players when there is a risk, McGuire this season being the most recent example. He should protect his players more.

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DHM - my point was the injury itself. Senior was crocked for the rest of the year. Had it been Willie Poching for example, the risk wouldn't have been taken at all.

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Niggly injuries are the concern,sprains and pulls go away.Somewhere along the lines you have to decide,can we nurse the player to close season (operation to fix),or write his season off now...

You decide...

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