Totaly agree it has to come back and only charges to the head punished, if a player say new it a 8 game ban for contact with head then they no to keep the shoulder down abit , it was only ever banned because of contact to the head , but the shoulder charge hardly ever did hit the head ! Let the players decided if they want it back ,but if done right it a superb tackle .. bring it back.

I was talking whole game, including amatuer....

And changing or 'softening' the sport to increase participation is a ridiculous idea - coz if that's the case, let's just play football instead - that'll increase numbers too.... There's already a touch/tag version of the game that provides an opportunity for those who don't want to risk injury.... Why change the sport into something different to what that the majority of players and fans fell in love with in the first place?

Not starting a argument but do people honestly think the tackle on green was a fair tackle. Because he went to see a specialist and it has just being announced he is out for the season?

and?

Does an injury automatically mean a tackle was illegal?

nothing wrong with it. its a tough game but injuries happen

100% agree - and people need to realise that he toughness is a massive part of the appeal to many involved in the game... Yes stamp out foul play, but don't go too far....

On injuries from big hits... I remember Konrad Hurrell jamming in and absolutely smashing the living daylights out of Cameron Ciraldo in the Tonga/Italy World Cup match at Halifax... Ciraldo suffered a ruptured spleen and retired.... He's now a VERY well thought of coach in the junior ranks at Penrith. By all accounts a couple of NRL clubs have been sniffing around him, but Penrith are adamant he's a fundemental part of the long term coaching set up of the club.