Excellent performance last night. Seemed well up for the fight even after going behind. Garbutt my MOM but strong displays by Watkins,Moon,Hall and even though I was never a fan of Sutty at half back I think he's now found his home and will improve with confidence. Segayaro good first game, hope we can hold onto him as I feel he'd be the star of 2017 for us. With Briscoe Ferres and Ward still to return things look good with the only downside for me is the lack of a leader at half back who can control the game alongside McGuire.

Not at Hardaker levels but I think it's ok. A full pre-season knowing that's going to be his position will hopefully improve him more in that department. He already though looks more of a threat in attack from the FB position than Hardaker ever did.

That's my view on him last night (and previously) too. All HB's have games when nothing works for them but for me the ones who keep trying, keep being vocal, keep putting their hand up like Lilley does are the ones I think have a better future for them. It's what Sutcliffe lacked at HB but looks like he'll get away with as a FB.

I like the look of sutcliffe at fullback. It gives us that halfbacky type edge that we haven't had from there since Webb. Hopefully it can give the team more balance in attack going forward. Sutcliffe seems better when he can drift in to add his input, rather than having the onus on him constantly in the centre.

It does mean though, that now the need for a class signing at halfback is even greater than it was before. Lilley is still young and learning, for now he needs to be an 'off the bench and intermittent starting' player to develop well. Then with a class act alongside him Mcguire can hopefully see out his final seasons doing what he does best.

Assuming segeyaro stays (

), sorting something out at halfback needs to be the number one priority. Backline is fine, pack is fine, hooker is hopefully sorted, halfback is the main area of deficiency now.

Just thought i'd post a link so you can re watch the match if you wish to www.rlawaydays.com/blog/45924743 ... s/10809530

Just thought i'd post a link so you can re watch the match if you wish to www.rlawaydays.com/blog/45924743 ... s/10809530

I just dont see anything in Lilley at all im sorry to say. Hes so slow, his tactical kicking is in the main terrible and although he defended well on Fri im far from convinced in him defensively also.

I appreciate hes young, and i love to see kids making it thru ranks, but hes played a high number of games this year but how many tries has he created?? 2??? 1 in 1st game and 1 at Hudds in cup.

In last minute Fri he had a clear run to line 20m out and got caught.

I hope im proved wrong. I really do.

He didn't get caught, he passed. Had he just dived he would have scored. I don't dissagree with your general feeling, but do think he is worth persevering with to develop, as a back up.

On the other hand I have the same feelings with Sutcliffe, who in comparison should be much further ahead in development with all the games he has under his belt. With the ball in hand, I thought he looked good Friday night, and I like that extra link. But his pace , and inability to be in position, is a massive risk to take on someone playing that position. He might improve it, but that is a might, and you only go with one out and out fullback. Hull exploited his positioning Friday, and every other team will watch that and do the same. All the best fullbacks have like a magnetic effect to a ball, and always seem to be there catching when a kick is put in. He however constantly seems to be turning around. Not sure how they will improve that. Like I have said many times as a squad utility back he is a great asset, but as a first choice position I just can't see one. Unless of course they do improve that positioning massively. It seems to have worked for Gaskell though, his like for like.

Sutty can and will improve his positioning and general full back play the more he plays the position. Whether he is the answer to that position tho im not 100% convinced. I do think Sutty is a talented player and is a Super League player im just not sure where. I would like to see him take on more tactical kicking duties.

Lilley, for me, just not good enough but we have no cover at halves and nobody really in 19s to slot in as back up so will have to stay there. Yeah he passed at death but he only passed cos Hull player caught him. For me Lilley is going to end up a decent Championship scrum half at best.

I will start this post by saying I'm a Zak fan.

I wouldn't right off Zak being our number 1 next season. Without being totally $hite on his full debut (at fullback), Zak was miles off the pace. He looked knackered and like a rabbit in the headlights. He will need to be a $hit load better to get a contract down here.

Unimpressive.

Thanks Biff ,
Correct Achurch has been a disaster and a couple of decent performances (when he is probably looking for a contract somewhere) do not make up for many lack luster performances .
Regarding Sutty , well yes much improved at full back although his positioning left alot to be desired so i am still in the doubting camp on him and god knows why he is kicking goals when Lilley is playing .

As for my comments that Hull are not a good side , i never said they do not deserve to be up in the top 2 , i just think they are one of the best of a really bad bunch .

I dont really mean it as a criticism of Briscoe, he is a very good player imo and would be knocking on the door for England selection bar injuries. But in an SC league, especially one with such a low one as SL, can we afford to have two highly paid wingers when we have Handley in reserve.

Or looked at another way, if we didnt have Briscoe and he was coming off contract at Hull at the end of this year, would you argue spending money there was a priority for this side?