The difference being that since Wigan have only been making up numbers for the past few seasons, there isn't as much determination to beat them. As treble winners Leeds is the first fixture most opponents look out for. The injuries are an excuse, but not the excuse - as discussed elsewhere there are several reasons we've been gash this year.

Ouch!

Can't beat selectively ignored facts which don't fit the "Mac is Great" narrative



I guess the usual suspects had better place the injuries excuse to one side and dredge up SPOTY, Kiwis and the floods again.

How else are you going to absolve McDermott from any blame for a record of 3 wins and 16 defeats this season?

Just don't dredge up mindsets of unconscious complacency again, because the fault for that could reasonably be laid at McDermott's door.

It is the right time for McDermott to go, no doubt about that. Half season of being cr@p shouldn't blur people's judgement of what McDermott has achieved though.

Mac has been heavily criticized even in midst of massive success. So alot weren't convinced by him. Selections, use of the bench etc.

This season was the year where his coaching credentials would get massively examined and he hasn't passed the test for me. And he continues to come up with any kind of answers where you can see the season turning round. we're in free fall.

Nonsense. Can't speak for all other teams, but our "first one we look at" is Saints, by some considerable distance, as it is with them.

Just spoke with Ryan Hall tonight. Didn't say when he would be back, was still limping. Slimmed down has the lad though, probably to reduce the weight on ankle I would suspect.

so he's still limping and he's thin? It's going to be a donkeys years before he's back.

Wife looked happy though, if any consolation.

Who knows, Ablett was meant to definitely be playing vs Catalans last week and didn't even make the 19.

He said last week that he was targeting the Wakey game for his comeback

Limping in his flip flops tonight, I would doubt that. Unless they inject or something, but who knows. He was struggling carrying the baby.

As Printer rightly points out, Ablett reckoned he would be back for Catalans, so who knows.